Monday, March 7, 2011




Posted: 07 Mar 2011 11:56 AM PST

In the unfolding democratic revolutions of the Arab world the Pas' stream of losses in by-elections in recent months is telling of the democratic distresses in Islam and can prove to be terminal.

While it is clearly indicated the Islamic party has lost the popular support it gained in the March 8, 2008 general elections, the fact the party is not equipped to overcome its constitutional, democratic and leadership crises, which are the root causes of the morale slump in the party, forces the conclusion that the disease that had struck the Pas is a killer.

Who is really the leader in Pas? Is it the party president, Datuk Seri Haji Abdul Hadi Awang, 63, or does the power actually reside in the claimant to the throne, the stoic Datuk Haji Nik Aziz Nik Mat, the older Tuan Guru (Teacher), who, at 78and despite being in and out of hospital, has displayed a singularly beautiful temper that burst out repeatedly against the whole party leadership in the last couple of years.

The troubles that brewed first over the president's inclination to discuss a "Unity Government" with Umno and the Barisan Nasional (BN) then turned into a nasty personal spat between Nik Aziz and the president's deputy, Nasharudin Isa, that dragged the stoical Nik Aziz into a waste of nepotism.

He had been believed to have planned to appoint his son-in-law, Arriffahmi, as his successor, and his protégé, Husam Musa, the brightest spark in the Pas government in Kelantan, he had wanted to kick upstairs in the party hierarchy and shunted to Kuala Lumpur.

Nik Aziz is the general guide (mursyidul Am) and elected by the council of scholars (Dewan Ulama) consisting of 15 members, all of whom are elected by the party representatives to the general assembly.

Hadi Awang, as president, is elected by the party representatives to the general assembly held once in three years.

Memories of party members do not admit of such a conflict between the mursyidul am and the president.

But this is a conflict of power that has made history and its expression as a serial burst of temper that began in 2009 and has not shown any sign of relief is best kept in a space capsule.

The party has had to pay heavily in losses of voters' support. It has so far trailed through four by-elections in which the party lost and one more that reduced the winning votes from a full basket to a handful.

At the same time it's a mess of constitutional, leadership and personal conflicts that visited the Pas after 19 years of Nik Aziz at the helm of the state government and as state party chief.

Following the differences between him and the president's men over the proposed "Unity Government" discussions with Umno, the old man was reported on 16 July to suddenly lash out at the party deputy president, Nasharudin Isa, who had retained his position in the party's supreme council election 10 days before.

Nasharudin, a mild-mannered scholar and among the best there is in the party was contested by Husam Musa from Kelantan and Mat Sabu from Penang on 6 June 2009.

It became clear from the ramblings of the party's general guide he had wanted Nasharudin to make way for his protégé, Husam Musa, whom he wanted out of Kelantan to open the way for his son-in-law he had earlier appointed as CEO of the state's commercial arm.

Husam garnered 281 votes against Nasharuddin's 480 in the contest. The third candidate, Mat Sabu, won 261 votes.

On 16 June 2009 the old man thundered against Nasharudin 'for not losing the contest to Husam Musa'.

He asked Nasharudin to vacate the Bachok parliamentary constituency the man represented and get out of Kelantan – a hit to the prostrate followed by a kick on the ass of the party deputy president.

The party, reeling in an agony of faith and of morale, never recovered.

It's an infection of a super ego that has become day-by-day a sickness.

Nasharudin who apparently swooped himself into meditation mode for more than a year, remained silent in obvious political pain.

In the enfoldment of the violent schisms in Islam and the recent surge for democratic rights and of freedoms in the Arab world, how can the erudite gentleman explain the maladies that have struck Islam in his home turf now becomes mysterious.

Is this where we can find the element of uniformity in Islam? Is the egophiliac the final construction of Iqbal's Secret of the Self or has there been a gross misreading of his Asrar-i-Khudi, with the magic of the "I AM" finally becoming a sub-equation of the wild over-empowerment of the political ego that is corruptible, and is corruptible absolutely in self-structured absolutism?

It did not take long for Nik Aziz and the Pas to face the consequence of his irascibility when a Kelantan state constituency, Manek Urai, fell vacant.

In the by-election of 14 July 2009 the Pas majority of 1352 votes won in March 2008 had been reduced to a meager 65.

Nasharudin visited the constituency during the by-election. But he remained silent in the lush speculation whether he would or would not speak.

The Pas was hit hard. Had it been generally clear at that time that the aged general guide had succumbed to senility and had wanted to also oust his protégé, Husam Musa, from Kelantan to make way for his son-in-law to succeed him, the party could have fallen straightaway into the slough of despond.

But most in the party did not know. Nik Aziz's daughter, Nik Amalina, was to write in the net about the alleged nepotism later.

In the contrasts between the chief minister/general guide with the president and the deputy president, Nik Aziz, likening the Pas as a ship, claimed to be the "captain", while Hadi and Nasarudin were merely the "anchorman" and the "oarsman".

That's a serious constitutional matter the party leaders should have found occasion to officially discuss and determined who, indeed, is "captain of the ship".

But while the "ship" was floundering in troubled waters and the old general guide had been summoning the party leaders to his office in Kelantan to be told, the president, his deputy, the chief of the council of scholars and the secretary-general jointly and severally opted to remain silent like the whole caper had been a non-issue.

Party members panicked. The party was not stable and the constitutional integrity of the Islamic party is fictional.

Under pressure the Pas could have disintegrated at that point.

Nik Aziz Nik Mat is not a trifle. The charismatic religious scholar is well-known throughout the region and in the Islamic world. But his charm in Malaysia is certainly on the wane. He lost Galas, Kelantan on 4 Nov. 2010 by 1190 votes to Umno. Pas had won Galas in March 2008.

Then the party fell in Tenang, Johor by 3707 votes on 30 Jan. 2011. Tenang was won by the BN but with a smaller majority in 2008.

On 6 March 2011, two days before the third anniversary of the Pas' big win on 8 March 2008, the party lost by larger majorities in Merlimau, Melaka (3643 votes) and in Kerdau, Pahang (2724 votes).

The old scholar was reported to be ranting against Malays for not supporting his party in Tenang, a certain sign of fatigue and weariness of one who had served with diligence from 1967 and who should have retired.

Without change, the Pas is likely to lose Kedah in the next general elections. It may also lose Kelantan. --- a. ghani ismail, 8 March, 2011


Posted: 07 Mar 2011 08:42 AM PST

I have been wanting to write an article on the issue of eating Halal food for a long time but haven't really gotten around to doing it. However, recently Pastorius posted an excerpt from an article that was published on Jihad Watch. I was really happy that someone else had written an article about this whole thing and so I wouldn't have to do it. But then Epa commented and my hopes of being lazy were shattered. Pastorius summarized Epa's comment as follows:

"Who gives a crap? It's only food."

However, this is what Epa actually said:

"Halal OR Kosher for that fact are manifestations of 'what you have to do to safely eat meat/fish in a low/no tech desert or warm environment'"

Well, he said more (you can follow the link and read the whole thing) but this is what prompted me to pick up my pen (keyboard) and start writing this lengthy article.

I will first deal with whether Halal food is just like Kosher, a way for us to eat safe, clean food in a desert or warm environment or is it a ritualistic way of slaughtering meat in Islam, hence "food sacrificed to idols", in the section "HALAL MEAT: ISLAM'S WAY OF SACRIFICING FOOD TO AN IDOL". Then I will deal with whether Christians and Jews are to eat food sacrificed to idols or not in the section "BIBLICAL REASONS FOR NOT EATING FOOD SACRIFICED TO IDOLS". And lastly, I will deal with why people in the West should boycott Halal meat for political purposes and not just for religious in the section "POLITICAL REASONS FOR BOYCOTTING HALAL MEAT ALONG WITH ANY OTHER PRODUCT PRODUCED IN ISLAM OR BY MUSLIMS". Let us begin!


This section should not take me long. The only thing I want to address here is Epa's comment. I am proposing that Halal is not just a way to eat clean meat (fish does not have to go through any religious sacrifice or prayer, Muslims can eat it right out of the water) but an offer and a thanks to Allah for providing the meat. Here is what the process entails.

Apart from making sure that the animal (or bird) has no blemishes and your knife is sharp, you have to lay down the animal and make sure it faces Makkah (Mecca). Then you have to say "Bismillah-e-Allah-u-akbar", which means, literally, "In the name of Allah, Allah is greater". And that's when you make a sharp cut in the animal's throat (without severing it completely) and let the blood drain. That completes the slaughtering part. Then you skin it and cook it, just like anybody else would do.

This sacrifice is Haram (not acceptable) if it is not done properly: if there was a blemish in the animal, if the animal didn't face Mecca, if Allah's name was not recited and if the whole procedure was done by someone who is not a pious Muslim (a pious Muslim is one who offers prayers to Allah 5 times a day, pays Zaka', fasts during Ramadan, goes for Hajj at least once in his lifetime if he has the means to do so and most importantly, says the Shahadah, that is, "La-ilaha-ilAllah-e-Muhammad-ur-Rasul-Allah", which means, "There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet/apostle/messenger).

What concerns me is not the facing of Mecca (as to me that is a joke), neither the blemishes (because I would rather eat an animal without any blemishes than one with some) but the part about invoking the name of Allah and it is that part that the Quran specifically tells Muslims to follow. Rest of it has been added through the Hadiths and later traditions (as far I know).

The Quran talks about invoking Allah's name in the following ways.

Sura 2. Verse 173: He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of Allah.

Sura 5. Verse 4: They ask thee what is lawful to them (as food): say: Lawful unto you are (all) things good and pure: and what ye have taught your trained hunting animals (to catch) in the manner directed to you by Allah; eat what they catch for you, but pronounce the name of Allah over it: and fear Allah; for Allah is swift in taking account.

This is the stuff that matters the most to me. I can not, and I will not, eat anything that is sacrificed in the name of an idol and Allah is nothing other than an old Meccan idol, there is no doubt about that.

This concludes the discussion about whether Halal (which just means "acceptable") meat has been sacrificed to an idol, namely Allah, or not. To me the above verses leave no doubt about it at all. I am sorry Epa but this does not sound to me like a way to keep meat clean in the desert climate of the Middle East.

Now onto Biblical reasons as to why we shouldn't eat meat sacrificed to idols.


I have been avoiding food sacrificed to idols for the last couple of years now. My primary reason for not eating food sacrificed to idols is simple: Biblical. However, my secondary reason is political. So this discussion should cater to both Christians/Jews and atheists/agnostics/theists. I will first start with the religious significances.

I know there is always a lot of debate amongst Christians whether this rule applies to us in this modern day and age. Many actually don't even think that there is any religion any more that sacrifices food to its god/gods so there isn't any food out there that can be labeled as "food-sacrificed-to-idols". If we, as Christians, are ever to venture into the matter of idolatry committed through food that is sacrificed to idols, we should ask what the Bible has to say about it.

I am going to start with Paul, who is everyone's favorite when it comes to food sacrificed to idols. Before I begin, however, I just want to say that I have my reservations about Paul. Where sometimes he sounds like the smartest guy in the world, at other times he sounds like someone that has no idea at all what God said about a certain issue (I realize that it is quite possible that I have misunderstood Paul here, but so far I haven't heard a plausible argument to prove my misunderstanding). One of those issues is food sacrificed to idols.

Let's see what he has to say:

1 Corinthians 8:1 Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that "We all possess knowledge." But knowledge puffs up while love builds up. 2 Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know. 3 But whoever loves God is known by God. 4 So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that "An idol is nothing at all in the world" and that "There is no God but one." 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.7 But not everyone possesses this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. 8 But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.9 Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 10 For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol's temple, won't that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? 11 So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12 When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.

I highlighted the things that I think are related to the discussion at hand. (I just have a side-question: What the heck were the believers doing in an idol's temple in the first place?) Where I disagree with Paul is this. It is God who cares about food sacrificed to idols, it is not about someone's sensibilities. Read the following:

Deuteronomy 32: 15 But Jeshurun grew fat, and kicked; you grew fat, stout, and sleek; then he forsook God who made him and scoffed at the Rock of his salvation. 16 They stirred him to jealousy with strange gods; with abominations they provoked him to anger. 17 They sacrificed to demons that were no gods, to gods they had never known, to new gods that had come recently, whom your fathers had never dreaded. 18You were unmindful of the Rock that bore you, and you forgot the God who gave you birth.

Revelation 2: 13 I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is. Yet you hold fast my name, and you did not deny my faith even in the days of Antipas my faithful witness, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. 14 But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality. 15 So also you have some who hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 16 Therefore repent. If not, I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth. 20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality. 22 Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works, 23 and I will strike her children dead.

Now, as far as idols being no gods but demons or nothing, I agree with Paul as that is what God seems to be saying too. However, where I don't agree with him is when he seemingly makes it all sound like, "we should care about idols only in case someone is offended by it", as if that was the only thing that mattered here, which, as we have seen above, is clearly not the case. So, either Paul is wrong here or he is just misunderstood; I am hoping it is the latter (I would really appreciate plausible explanations to this passage in case I am wrong). Now that I have made my viewpoint on this popular passage from Paul clear (hopefully), let us see what the Church was told about food sacrificed to idols (apart from the verses from Revelation).

Acts 15: 22 Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, 23 with the following letter: "The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. 24 Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, 25 it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the sake of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: 29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell."

As we can see clearly, the Apostles didn't think it was their decision, rather that it was from the Holy Spirit. Another reference goes as follows:

Acts 21: 25 As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality."

I don't know whether what I have pasted here is sufficient evidence for it or not but it is enough for me to be convinced that I am to stay away from food sacrificed to idols.

My case stands more for the Christians. The reason there isn't a lot on food sacrificed to idols in the Tanakh is that the Israelites were told not to even deal with the idolaters around them. In fact, they were told to annihilate them once they conquered their land to avoid any idolatry within Israel. They weren't even allowed to speak out the name of any other god.

This is it for the religious part of this discussion. I will post the section "POLITICAL REASONS FOR BOYCOTTING HALAL MEAT ALONGWITH ANY OTHER PRODUCT PRODUCED IN ISLAM OR BY MUSLIMS" later as this is already getting way too long for a blog post.

Benarkah Hubungan PAS dan DAP Menjadi Sebab Penolakan Orang Melayu kepada PAS?

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 08:01 AM PST

Antara serangan UMNO kepada PAS adalah kononnya hubungan PAS dgn DAP yang telah menyebabkan orang Melayu menolak PAS.

Masaalahnya sewaktu PAS berseorangan diri dahulu, PAS biasa hilang wang deposit di Melaka.

Malahan pada tahun 1986, PAS cuma mampu dapat 1 kerusi Parlimen sahaja dan tiada negeri yang diperintah.

Adakah PAS perlu berseorangan seperti 1986 baru UMNO mahu berhenti menggunakan isu ini?

Yang menyedihakan Tulang Besi, ada pimpinan2 PAS yang menyebarkan isu yang sama kepada ahli2 dan penggerak PAS juga.

Sedih sangat-sangat.

Tulang Besi

MAHATIR Pariah caste of all theThulukkans;hear this Justice Mohd Hishamudin Mohd Yunus awarded Brother Awar Ibrahim RM4mil for defamation and RM500,000 for conspiracy to injure.

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 07:32 AM PST

Dr Mahathir Mohamad dedicated 20 pages of his memoirs into detailing how he came to know about Anwar Ibrahim's alleged sexual liaisons with men and women, leading to the latter's sacking in 1998.ZIONIST BAPTIZED PARAIAN AHMAD ZAHID WILL RATHER SHARE BED WITH UMNO'S PROSTITUTE UMMI HAFILDA ALI THEN BREAK THE WALLS OF MUSLIM DIVISION Umno vice-president Ahmad Zahid Hamidi on Saturday vowed to defend party president Najib Abdul Razak to his last breath. "If anyone wants to topple Najib, they would have to cross over the body of this person in front of you. "We will have to defend him. The blood that flows in his veins is … Read more In the chapter 'Anwar's Challenge', Mahathir states: "Four years after IGP Tun Hanif first told me about allegations linking Anwar to homosexual activities, someone sent me the book '50 Dalil Kenapa Anwar Ibrahim Tidak Boleh Jadi Perdana Menteri' ('50 Reasons Why Anwar Ibrahim Cannot Become Prime Minister').


UMMI HAFILDA THE PROSTITUTE'S ULTIMATE FANTASY: SIZE NOT FOREPLAY BUT SHE  LOVES ORAL SEX Karima el-Mahrough isn't letting the ongoing media frenzy over her alleged involvement with Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi get her down.   Yes, God has sent us many signs. If not why would Augustine Paul expire at the same time as the sign … Read more "The book was clearly a sensationalist attempt to make money so I did not read it, but the rumours about Anwar refused to go away."He then cites, "Then in 1997, I received a letter from a woman named Ummi Hafilda Ali. Its contents disturbed me as there were more specific detailed allegations of sodomy against Anwar."


If you're into royal golden  then this is your lucky day! Prince William decided to take a piss, and exposed his royal penis, much to the delight of the paparazzo that snapped these pictures. Yup, Prince William got caught with his pants down. No seriously, the future King of England was photographed while peeing and now of his penis are … Read more Meanwhile, Mahathir says: "The police had continued their observations of the deputy minister's activities, as was their usual practice. Even if I had asked them to stop, I doubt they would have. This time they had evidence, including pictures and confessions of people involved  UMMI HAFILDA THE PROSTITUTE'S ULTIMATE FANTASY: SIZE NOT FOREPLAY BUT SHE LOVES ORAL SEX
UMMI HAFILDA THE PROSTITUTE'S ULTIMATE FANTASY: SIZE NOT FOREPLAY BUT SHE  LOVES ORAL SEX Karima el-Mahrough isn't letting the ongoing media frenzy over her alleged involvement with Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi get her down.   Yes, God has sent us many signs. If not why would Augustine Paul expire at the same time as the sign … Read more Relating events that led to firing of Anwar, Mahathir narrates how he interviewed four girls who told him about how they were persuaded to see a very influential person by an Indian man they knew by the name of Nalla.


UMMI warned us; being on    UMMI'S "fucksaw" isn't for everyone. After 48 hours of ODing on our new favorite drug, it seems like Americans are beginning to run out of steam. And for some former newsmakers, like Muammar Gaddafi, our collective post-traumatic-Charlie-Sheen disorder offers an opportunity to take back the spotlight. Stephen Colbert illustrated … Read more

"He had taken each girl separately to a house in Kenny Hills. There they met a person they recognized as the deputy prime minister. They were asked to undress with the purpose of having sex. "Two of them said they refused but the other two consented. They were willing to talk to the police and to me but were adamant that they should not appear in court to give evidence."Mahathir said he then called the Umno menteri besar, chief ministers and state heads to Sri Perdana for a meeting and asked the police to make the witnesses he had interviewed available.


The Judge is dead. Be thankful people, ONE LESS evil to contend with. HELL FIRE WILL EAT YOUTry your best to rest with fires burning around you… difficult heh? Disgusting Paul has gone to be judged by his Maker. He committed great injustice to the many innocent who bore the consequences of his judgement. … Read more

"I then briefed party leaders about what I had learnt about Anwar and showed them pictures of the witnesses."readmorMahathir's Political Secretary Aziz Samsuddin said "Ummi Hafilda is a prostitute,
sodomy would be t
Tell-all book
replacing the Sultan of
This was among the many chapters in the 800 page memoirs, which also details his earliest memories of childhood; through Malaya's struggle through the sunset of British colonialism, World War II, and Independence; and to his life as a doctor. readmore THE FAITHFOOL UMNO DOGGY STORY CALLED TULUKAN OUTSYED THE BOX

In a tell-all book, Mahathir states categorically that he is a Malay.





"Some claim that my father was Malayalee and was fluent in both Tamil and Malayalam. Some have even written that he was a Hindu who converted to Islam to marry my mother. Others say they have seen documents clearly stating my ethnicity."I admit that some Indian, or more accurately South Asian blood flows in my veins, but from which part of the Indian subcontinent my ancestors came I do not know," he says in the beginning of Chapter three of the 62 chapter memoirs, which is 843 pages long.


Why do we send monkeys to Washington to convince them that we are not monkeys? Come on, the law of the jungle does not work in Washington. Obviously to save the Malaysian reputation after some obvious dumbanswers given by Nazri, the sponsor have to turn it into off the record to save face for Malaysia. … Read more

On Singapore's leader Lee Kuan Yew he says: "I had clashed with Lee many times when we were MPs in the 1964 and 1965 parliamentary sessions. I did not like his endless preaching of about what Malaysia should do or should be like.

"Bitter over the painful separation, he called Malays 'the jungle Arabs', likening them to the desert Arabs of who he seemed to have a low opinion. I doubt he would disparage the Arabs today as Singapore is now far more active than Malaysia in wooing investors from the Middle East, and being the model as well as their advisers for development."

On the bright side, he says, "Despite our past clashes, I was determined to have friendly relations with Singapore when I became Prime Minister."

Ops Lalang


TO NAJIB DON'T GET 'FACEBOOK-ED.' OUT SAME SYSTEM OF CORRUPTION, NEPOTISM AND POLICE BRUTALITY IN EGYPT AND MALAYSIA LETS DO THE REVOLUTIONARY INNOVATION Mahatir said this You don't argue with men with guns Later on in the book, Mahathir betrays a hint of timidity with the police force. When Plate asked whether Mahathir's control over the police, … Read more

In addition to a lot of personal, if controversial anecdotes, Mahathir narrates his constant struggles as a politician to improve the lot of his fellow citizens; his single-minded pursuit of his country's goals; his greatest fears; and his most cherished hopes.


The Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf) today pledged to stand down for good if the prime minister fully addresses the group's claims of Indian marginalisation. Hindraf legal advisor and the Human Rights Party secretary-general, P. Uthayakumar, told reporters they only want for their 18 demands concerning the Indian community — submitted to the government in … Read more

In a 20 page chapter on Operasi Lalang, he says: " I told Musa Hitam, my then deputy prime minister and minister of Home Affairs, to tell the IGP very early in my premiership that I did not intend to use the ISA.

"How then could I have allowed Ops Lalang, biggest of such police operation in Malaysian history, to happen just six years later?"

In 1987, with the Chinese language issue, university rallies, Umno's accusation of mass conversions of Malays into Christians and a Malay soldier running amok and firing M-16 in Jalan Chow Kit, he says: "The police felt that a repeat of the May 13 riots of 1969 was more than likely. The IGP advised me that pre-emptive arrests under the ISA had to be made quickly if public order was to be maintained. "Agreeing to follow the IGP's recommendations meant having to overcome my own conscience."MAHARTIR : WE UMNO-BARISAN THE BIGGEST SURVIVING DICTATORSHIP GOVERNMENT IF YOU DONT BEHAVE YOU CAN GO BACK TO WHERE YOU BLOODY COME FROM

Posted by muslimmalaysia786     my response to "OutSyed the Box: Is The DAP A Chauvinist Party?", a reader who signed off as Paul Warren left the following comment (at Hartal MSM): You just wasted a some bytes writing a crtic on this guy SAA. He's an idiot to have thought that his opnions mattered. Just as … Read more

On former Finance Minister Daim Zainuddin , he says: "He was repeatedly accused of lining his pockets and taking kickbacks from contracts. No clear evidence ever produced, but once again the whispering grew louder and more spiteful. People came to see me to complain about him, and when I demanded evidence, they could not produce."

chittarkotaian: Tun Daim Zainuddin a career of shooting poison .

13 Jun 2010  Tun Daim Zainuddin a career of shooting poison dartslaying booby traps. and knifing friend or foe in the back. "An excellent writer and a…/tun-daim-zainuddin-career-of-shootingDaim, as usual, ignored all the talk about him. "He must have learnt the rumours but he chose not to reply. When the talk got to be too much and I could not bear it anymore, I arranged for him to resign."In the end what worried me were not only the rumours of cronyism but also tales of his supposed disloyalty. He was supportive during the financial crisis, at least in front of me."Mahathir said he was later informed by Abdul Ghani Othman, that Diam had called a number of menteri besars, telling them not to s upport his idea of currency controls."Since nobody else came with similar complaints I just discounted the story. But when it had all become too much, I didn't accuse him of anything but sent word through a mutual friend that I wanted him to resign."READMORE  MAHATIR Pariah caste of all theThulukkan;hear this Justice Mohd Hishamudin Mohd Yunus awarded Brother Awar Ibrahim RM4mil for defamation and RM500,000 for conspiracy to injure.

308 – Anwar Ibrahim in Kedah

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 06:01 AM PST

Program Lawatan Dato' Seri Anwar Ibrahim ke Kedah

Sempena Sambutan 3 Tahun

 Kedah Sejahtera Di Bawah Pemerintahan Pakatan Rakyat


8 Mac 2011 (Selasa)


9.00 – 12.00 Malam – Ceramah Perdana


Lokasi : Kompleks PAS Batu 9, Jalan Kota Sarang Semut, Pendang



      1.  YB Dato' Seri Anwar Ibrahim

      2.  YAB Dato' Seri Azizan Abdul Razak

      3.   YB Dr Tan Seng Giow

Pictorial for ‘Malam Pasokan Keadilan Rakyat’ in Penang

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 05:57 AM PST

By the Adminstrator


PAS losing big picture

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 05:49 AM PST

Our favourite opportunist, Ibrahim Ali, has declared that the worst is over for BN, and that Pakatan (or more correctly, Anwar Ibrahim) can forget about its path to Putrajaya.

Much as we despise, disregard and disbelieve him, I'm afraid this time he may be right. Only the unrealistic Paktan supporter would believe otherwise.

Leaving aside the unsavoury outcome from the UMNO government use of its bag of goodies, bag of tricks and bag of lies, I fear Pakatan has lost its momentum from the 2008 tsunami.

Forget about Uthayakumar's pathetic attempt to claim credit for Pakatan's recent losses in a number of by-elections, the culprit or rather culprits for the loss of support for Pakatan are many. This post will deal with just one.

I'm targeting PAS. As a primer, please read my post
'Tis the nature of the beast (2).

With the help of DAP, PAS was previously (post March 2008) winning increasing Chinese support to an extent that alas, it felt (incorrectly) confident enough to revert to its tragic misogynist and oppressive nature. It showed its ugly fangs by wanting to police the morals of Malaysians.

The recent prohibition of officially permitted gambling facilities in Kelantan, the recent comments by its Youth Chief on issues such as Valentine's Day and such like events, have not been helpful to Pakatan's cause.

And that perhaps could have been part reason for its lack of strong Chinese support in Merlimau. Like most Chinese there, I am not comfortable with PAS metamorphosing recently from a tabby cat into the striped tiger that we had feared.

At times like this, we are faced with the dilemma of supporting PAS and its religious agenda or allowing UMNO and its corruption to run rampant again. Sadly, a divided PKR is in no position to spearhead the fight into the heartland, to provide Malays with a third alternative.

There are of course many other factors affecting Pakatan's slip in popularity, but the least PAS could do at this time is to f* stop frightening non-Muslims with its unwelcomed moral policing.

I'll stop here.

MACC's comms coincidence

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 04:50 AM PST

Today The Malaysian Insider reported:

KUALA LUMPUR 7 Mac: The Royal Commission of Inquiry into the death of Teoh Beng Hock was told today that no information on short messaging service (SMS) and calls made, received or missed on the day the political aide was found dead could be retrieved from the handphones belonging to six Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) officers.

Six, that's right, not one or two or three or even four, but all six phones! ... and on the very day Teoh perished mysteriously while in the MACC building where he was ordered by the MACC to report to.

Must be sun flares or a nuclear explosion somewhere which caused the electronic wipeout, or perhaps just one of those equally mysterious Malaysian coincidences.

An assistant analyst at the computer crime section of the Royal Malaysian Police forensic laboratory Inspector Mohd Zaidi Abu Hassan said the information that was available in the telephones were those made and received after July 22 2009.

… which was one week AFTER Teoh's death. Halleujah, Alhamdulillah, Tien Kong be praised, at least the systems were back in order by then.

According to a Malaysiakini
news report, police extracted a call by a female friend of a MACC officer which read a sweet innocuous conversation like:

"Why everyone is pointing finger against MACC? ...... Let it be, don't worry, sayang."

Poor sayang, yalah no worries, it was suicide after all. Any Malaysian kid would have told you Teoh BH strangulated himself (quite a common happening in Malaysia), on the eve of a wedding to a girl who was already carrying his future son. A tragedy no doubt but just another typical and not unusual "Malaysian" cause of death.

'ROS sitting on Pakatan application'

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 12:31 AM PST

PKR secretary-general Saifuddin Nasution (left) said he believes the EC may be unclear on the issue. "I believe what the EC deputy chairperson meant was for us to register with the EC under one logo, for use during elections," he explained.
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Najib thanks Kerdau and Merlimau voters for win

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 12:14 AM PST

At the opening of Parliament today, Prime Minister and Barisan National head, Najib Razak thanks the voters of Kerdau, Pahang and Merlimau Melaka for giving BN a convincing win over PAS rivals at the recent double by-elections.
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Berilah tempat kepada Ibrahim Ali

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 10:14 AM PST

Pilihanraya umumakan tiba tidak lama lagi. Tanda-tanda dan dalilnya sudah banyak kita lihat dan perhatikan. Piliharaya Sarawak akan sampai selewat-lewatnya pada bulan Julai ini tetapi tanda-tanda ia akan berlaku lebih awal memang jelas kelihatan. Orang-orang politik yang bercita-cita tinggi sudah mula mundar mandir dari kawasan masing-masing ke Kuala lumpur untuk mencari jalan menjadi calun dan ada juga yang sedang mencari peluang untuk medapatkan peluang perniagaan semasa pilihanraya sudah hampir ini.

Di bahagian-bahagian UMNO sudah ramai yang sedang memasang badan dan mendekati rakyat untuk mendapat sokongan jika diberi peluang untuk menjadi calun. Masalahnya setiap kawasan Parlimen atau DUN hanya seorang sahaja yang akan dicalunkan sedangkan yang memasang badan terlalu ramai. Ketua-ketua cawangan sudah mula mendapat 'handouts' mereka yang bercita-cita dan ketua-ketua cawangan ini sedang mendapat perhatian istimewa dari 'bakal-bakal' calun ini.

Itu cerita di peringkat kawasan. Di peringkat pusat pula ramai penggiat politik juga sedang memasang badan dan selalu sahaja muka-muka dan wajah mereka terpampang di dada-dada akhbar. Kali ini Ibrahim Ali misaknya dengan cekap mengucapkan tahniah kepada UMNO dan BN kerana berjaya di dalam PRK Kerdau dan Merlimau walaupun beliau melangkah ke Parlimen dengan sokongan PAS.

Ibrahim ini pandai orangnya. Beliau sentiasa berada dalam perhatian pimpinan dan orang ramai kerana beliau itu adalah Ibrahim Ali. Semasa beliau dipecat dari UMNO kerana bertanding sebagai calun bebas beliau adalah orang kuat Nik Aziz. Pada masa itu Nik Aziz adalah orang yang tersangat mulia dan dihormati oleh Ibrahim dan kebijaksanaan Ibrahim jugalah yang meyakinkan Nik Aziz untuk membenarkan Ibrahim bertanding menggunakan simbul PAS dan beliau telah mendapat majoriti melebihi tujuh ribu undi. Sekarang Nik Aziz dan PAS dimusuhinya kerana ingin mendapat tempat di dalam parti yang memerintah. 'Habis madu sepah dibuang'; itulah ibaratnya perlakuan Ibrahim kepada PAS dan Nik Aziz yang dipujanya semasa kesaorangan dahulu.

Semasa Ibrahim bertanding di dalam PRK di Pasir Mas beliau hanya mendapat 600 undi sahaja kalau tidak silap saya dan telah hilang wang pertaruhannya. Dengan menggunakan pengaruh PAS dan Nik Aziz, Ibrahim berjaya menjadi Ahli Parlimen yang lantang dan didengari oleh semua orang. Sekarang Ibrahim sudah berputus arang dengan Nik Aziz dan PAS seperti dia berputus arang dengan UMNO selepas beliau dipecat sehinggakan beliau sanggup bertanding di atas tiket bebas untuk menentang UMNO.

Ibrahim orang berani mengambil keputusan asalakan sahaja beliau berada di dalam arus politik tanahair.'He will always be at the buttered side of the bread' kata setengah yang memberikan pendapat tentang Ibrahim.

Itulah sebabnya saya selalu menasihati kawan-kawan yang sama-sama mengenali Ibrahim Ali ini supaya jangan diikutkan sangat gelagatnya semasa berbaik dengan dia sebab pada bila-bila masa beliau akan meninggalkan kita. Sebaliknya jika kita berada dalam situasi yang bertentangan dengan beliau jangan membenci beliau habis-habisan kerana pada bila-bila masa sahaja beliau akan datang bersama kita apabila beliau ditinggalkan oleh kawan-kawan dan kumpulannya. Di dalam politik Ibrahim mengikut resmi air; di mana lekok di situ dia berhenti.

Kepada UMNO dan BN elok diambil Ibrahim ini sebagai calun dalam pilihanraya kali ini dan kawasannya tidak lain dan tidak bukan ialah Pasir Mas. Ibrahim telah dipecat seumur hidup dari UMNO dan tidak tahulah caranya UMNO untuk menerima Ibrahim sebagai ahli kepada parti itu. Tetapi rakan-rakan beliau yang masih berada bersama beliau hari ini mencadangkan supaya Ibrahim diberikan keistimewaan sekali lagi untuk bertanding sebagai calun bebas tetapi menggunakan simbul BN seperti yang beliau lakukan bersama PAS dalam pilihanraya UMUM yang lalu.

Saya mengenali Ibrahim dengan dekat. Saya tahu apa yang dimahukannya. Beliau mahukan tempat di dalam pilihanraya yang akan datang ini. Kata rakan-rakan yang rapat beliau mengharapkan akan mendapat sokongan Dr Mahathir untuk mempengaruhi UMNO atau bekerjasama dengan UMNO untuk bertanding di Pasir Mas. Pada hemat saya berikan sahajalah tempat kepada beliau supaya politik kita tidak bising sangat. Berilah tempat kepada beliau kerana beliau ialah Ibrahim Ali.

Beliau adalah seorang yang cekal. Bermacam-macam orang mengata beliau. Mohamad Sabu memberikan beliau gelaran 'Datuk Kaya Parti' kerana terlalu banyak parti yang beliau sertai bermula dari parti Berjasa sampailah tidak ada parti sekarang ini. Lim Kit Siang pula memanggil beliau sebagai katak dan banyak lagi gelaran yang didengari untuk Ibrahim ini.

Pengaruh beliau sebagai ketua kepada PERKASA mungkin boleh membawa sedikit sebanyak undi untuk UMNO dari kalangan orang Melayu walaupun MCA mungkin tidak bersetuju. Elok jika Ibrahim ini masih berada dalam politik negara kita walaupun beliau sentiasa berubah-berubah pendirian mengikut keadaan dan masa.

Ibrahim Ali ini penting untuk berada di dalam arena politik negara. Ibrahim ini penting ibarat pentingnya garam dalam masakan kita. Dalam masakan kita mesti ada garam, barulah masakan itu sedap dimakan.

Tetapi masalahnya garam ini hanyalah setakat sesedap rasa sahaja. Kalau banyak sangat dibubuh garam di dalam masakan kita masakan itu akan terlalu masin untuk dijamah.

Tetapi yang pentingnya garam itu mesti ada untuk mengenakkan masakan.

Tks YB Dtk Rais... but I have to go on

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 02:49 AM PST

Thank you YB Minister Datuk Seri Utama Dr Rais Yatim for replying my SMS on our double victory in Merlimau and Kerdau. As Umno members, we should praise those who had worked hard for it. As a minister, you have done your best in both and I personally believe the rakyat appreciated it.

However, sorry to say, I cant stop what I have started. Not about you as I believe as a senior politician, your are able to distinguish the points I have written previously. Should I stop now, my credibility will be at stake.

But if you remain adamant about issues pertaining to your special officer NA, then yours will be at stake. His 'involvement' in securing contracts from the MCMC is now in the hands of the MACC. An officer who tarnishes his boss' good name and clean image cannot be tolerated. Afterall, he produced letters purportedly signed by you.

As I wroter earlier, it was an 'unfortunate cooincidence' that he serves you. Even if he is a special officer to the Prime Minister, I will still write about it.

However, you didnt like me exposing such a scandal involving the people and agencies under your scope of responsibility. And should I quit after 2 drilling sessions with the MCMC (Tues, Feb 15) and the MACC (Sun Feb 20)?

I was made to understand that you no more allow NA to go to the MCMC in Cyberjaya. That's good and such an action should be commended because you have at least acted on it. Furthermore, MCMC's chief operating officer Datuk Shahril Tarmizi was 'out' during your meeting with the Commission members last two weeks. I know the reason why.

I was also told that all 6 members of the MCMC Commission were summoned to the MACC headquarter in Putrajaya on Monday Feb 21, a day after me.

Yes, the MACC is still investigating. The latest news is, they got strong evidence for pick ups. What I am doing is to help you with some cleanings. Your name and image are still not affected and I want it to stay that way.

Although I am a bit disheartened that you strike off my name from the list of bloggers for Merlimau and Kerdau by-elections (RM3,000 is quite big for someone as poor as me), its okay. By-elections dont come all the time.

Its also alright when an officer of yours said that you wont see and talk to me. My only point is, dont cover this NA and any wrongdoings. Not good for you (whom I have high respect for) and not good for the government.

Muhyiddin Patut Terima Kasih Dengan PAS, bukan Maki PAS

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 07:31 AM PST

Reaksi awal Muhyiddin Yaasin dilaporkan:

JASIN 6 Mac – Kemenangan dua calon Barisan Nasional (BN) dalam Pilihan Raya Kecil Dewan Undangan Negeri (DUN) Merlimau dan Kerdau membuktikan sokongan rakyat terhadap Pas semakin terhakis.

Bagi Tulang Besi, sepatutnya Muhyiddin BERTERIMA KASIH kepada kepimpinan PAS, bukan memaki PAS sebegini biadab. PAS sebenarnya MENGHADIAHKAN kekuatan semula UMNO, bukan sebab UMNO itu kuat semula atas usaha sendiri.

Mengapa Tulang Besi berkata begini?

Sepanjang 2 tahun pemilihan PAS semenjak 2009 lepas, apakah yang telah dilakukan oleh teraju utama PAS di dalam PERSAINGAN dengan rakan sejawat mereka di dalam UMNO? Terutama sekali saya merujuk kepada Presiden dan Timbalan Presiden?

Sepanjang 2 tahun kebelakangan ini, terdapa BERBAGAI-BAGAI isu besar yang boleh dieksplotasi i.e. kenaikan harga barang, korupsi yang berleluasa, penswastaan air di Selangor yang menguntungkan kroni, sabotaj kerajaan negeri Selangor dgn perlantikan Khusrin, pemberian lesen judi yang bertambah2, penyalahgunaan wang rakyat, penggadaian tanah rezab surau kepada tauke di Rawang, fitnah liwat ke atas Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim, saman ekor dan berbagai-bagai lagi,

Namun apakah yang dilakukan oleh teraju utama PAS terutamanya Timbalan Presiden PAS? Apa usaha terancang atau kempen terancang yang dilakukan beliau di dalam mencabar kedudukan Presiden dan Timbalan Presiden UMNO berdasarkan isu-isu di atas?

Selain dari itu, apakah usaha yang membolehkan pengundi-pengundi saluran 3 ke atas memberi kepercayaan mereka kepada Presiden dan Timbalan Presiden PAS sebagai alternatif kepada Presiden dan Timbalan Presiden UMNO?

"Kerajaang Perpaduang" Satu-Satunya Wawasan Kepimpinan PAS Sepanjang 2 Tahun Kebelakangan Ini

Dari yang Tulang Besi perhatikan 2 tahun yang lepas, satu-satunya gagasan yang diilhamkan oleh Presiden dan Timbalan Presiden PAS hanyalah wawasan yang dipanggil "Kerajaang Perpaduang". Tidak lebih dari itu.

Gagasan "Kerajaang Perpaduang" ini telah memainkan peranan yang cukup penting di dalam membina kembali keyakinan orang Melayu kepada kepimpinan Najib dan Muhyiddin Yaasin.

Secara tidak sedar, Presiden dan Timbalan Presiden telah memberi isyarat kepada orang Melayu bahawa Gagasan Pakatan Rakyat itu tidak baik untuk orang Melayu. Ini kerana PAS sendiri pun tak konfiden dengan Pakatan Rakyat sehingga mahu menubuhkan Kerajaang Perpaduang. Di kala itu, secara otomatik imej Najib dan Muhyiddin naik melambung dikalangan pengundi Saluran 3 ke atas.


Oleh kerana UMNO parti Melayu, maka satu-satunya tentangan mereka di kalangan orang Melayu adalah PAS.

Namun, apa yang berlaku dalam dua tahun yang lepas adalah seumpama Najib dan Muhyiddin membawa dan mengelicik bola sampai ke pintu gol tanpa ada tantangan dari PAS.

Tak hairanlah bila tiba waktu menjaring gol (baca: pilihanraya kecil) mereka menjaring gol dengan jayanya.

Kita mesti paham, di luar waktu pilihanraya adalah umpama kita menggelicik bola, passing bola, crossing bola, "center" bola dsbya. Di waktu pilihanraya adalah waktu kita "menjaring" gol.

Kalau di luar waktu pilihanraya, UMNO secara bebas membawa bola ke mana mereka mahu, maka mudahlah mereka menjaring gol apabila tiba waktu pilihanraya.

Patutlah UMNO begitu gembira sangat apabila Ustaz Nasaruddin Mat Isa dinobatkan sebagai Timbalan Presiden PAS pada pemilihan 2009 yang lepas.

Tulang Besi

Maksiat di persisiran Sungai Melaka, Majlis Agama Islam Melaka buat apa?(Updated)

Posted: 07 Mar 2011 06:36 AM PST

Sekiranya anda ke kawasan tebing Sungai Melaka dan bersiar siar disana bersama pasangan anda atau dengan ahli keluarga, maka hendaklah anda berwaspada akan pasangan belangkas yang selalunya terdiri dari pasangan muda Melayu yang akan menurut tabiat belangkas didalam ertikata sebenarnya dikawasan laluan pejalan kaki disana!

Saya hairan akan sikap pasangan remaja Melayu yang semberono sahaja berlaku sumbang walaupun dikhalayak awam!
Sebaik lalu dikawasan tebing sungai Melaka itu yang disediakan tempat duduk untuk orang orang awam, saya terdengar pulak perbincangan diantara pelacur pelacur dengan bakal pelanggan masing masing yang dengan selamba menawar harga 'perkhidmatan' masing masing. Mereka tak segan silu bercakap dengan suara yang jelas kedengaran pada orang awam dan para pelancung yang berlalu lalang disana.

Saya ingin bertanya apakah pihak Majlis Agama Islam Melaka tidak memantau kawasan ini?

Jika tidak atau belum lagi, maka ini saya sarankan supaya pihak penguatkuasa MAIM menjalankan siasatan berkenaan gejala maksiat ini dengan segera.

Sayang seribu kali sayang, Melaka Bandaraya Bersejarah kini dicemari dengan perlakuan sumbang oleh pasangan remaja Melayu dan ditambah pula dengan kemaksiatan para pelacur secara terbuka dikawasan pelancungan ini.

Saya harap ada pihak yang berkenaan mengambil perhatian dan tindakan segera mengenai maksiat ini.

Luke-warm response to 3rd anniversary

Posted: 06 Mar 2011 07:55 PM PST

Only about 1500 people attended the launch of the Orange Book and a celebration to mark the third anniversary of PKR-DAP-PAS rule in Selangor tonight. Organising chairman Dr Hasan Mohamed Ali, who is also State Executive Council member, in his speech at the function, attributed the poor attendance to tomorrow's Kerdau and Merlimau by-elections.
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Recommendations of UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention

Posted: 06 Mar 2011 09:37 PM PST

As you've probably noticed, I feel quite strongly about the issue of Arbitrary Detention. Just wanted to share a statement Suaram recently made on the matter:

Mission Report on Malaysia by Working Group on Arbitrary Detention:
Implement Recommendations Now!

The findings and recommendations of the United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention (WGAD) from its visit to Malaysia from 7 to 18 June 2010 have added to the long list of recommendations and concerns pertaining to the Malaysian government's legislations, policies and practices of arbitrary detention. Suara Rakyat Malaysia (SUARAM) has despatched Ms Temme Lee, SUARAM Secretariat member to make interventions at the UN Human Rights Council after the mission report presented by the WGAD[1]. SUARAM supports the recommendations made by the working group to the Malaysian government.

"Classic Cases of Arbitrary Detention" under the ISA, EO, DDA, RRA
In their mission report, the WGAD states that it is "seriously concerned" about the existence and enforcement of laws which provide for detention without trial in Malaysia, namely the Internal Security Act (ISA), the Emergency (Public Order and Prevention of Crime) Ordinance (EO), the Dangerous Drugs (Special Preventive Measures) Act (DDA), and the Restricted Residence Act.

"(These laws) impede the detainee's right to a fair trial, consecrated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and by international human rights customary law. They also severely restrict detainees' access to legal counsel."

The working group has also stated its concern on the periodic review by the Advisory Board. The working group considers that an appearance before an Advisory Board does not fulfill minimal fair trial guarantees. Although detainees may appeal every six months to the Advisory Board on the preventive laws, the detainees are not notified of its recommendations, its recommendations are not binding and they are not made public. On the other, the defence lawyers may appear on behalf of the detainee, attend the hearing without access to all the documentation, including evidence, and have no right to call witnesses.

During the press conference held by the WGAD on 18 June 2010, its Chairperson-Rapporteur El Hadji Malick Sow stated that detentions under the ISA, the EO, and the DDA are "classic cases of arbitrary detention". The WGAD also noted with concern that "thousands of people" are being detained under the EO and the DDA.

"Systematic" Detention of Refugees
Also of concern to the WGAD is the detention of refugees and asylum seekers. The WGAD's Chairperson-Rapporteur has described the detention of refugees as "systematic", noting that even refugees who are in possession of identity cards issued by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees are not exempt from arrests and detentions.

Malaysia's non-ratification of the 1951 Convention on the Status of Refugees and non-recognition of the status of refugees and asylum seekers have resulted in the detention of many refugees under immigration laws in Malaysia for their alleged "illegal presence" in Malaysian territory. The WGAD notes that detainees who have served prison sentences under Immigration laws are often held in immigration detention centres for an indefinite period while awaiting deportation to their countries of origin.

Police Force: Excessive Power leads to human rights violations

The working group has also expressed concern over the excessive power given to the police force in Malaysia particularly under the preventive laws. The working group is of the view that the excessive power given to the police has led to their eluding the normal penal procedure for common crimes and offences. This has given an opportunity to the police and the Home Minister to detain persons without the need to sustain evidence or to probe penal responsibility. The Working group also concludes that the police often fail to inform the detainees about their rights to contact family members and to consult a lawyer of their choice.

The working group also raises serious concern about the deaths that occur during the police detention and while in police custody; the ill treatment and torture in police stations and detention centres in order to obtain confessions and incriminatory evidence.

Repeal All Detention-without-Trial Laws

On detention-without-trial laws, the WGAD unambiguously recommends that the ISA, the EO, the DDA, and the RRA be repealed. In the interim period, while the laws are in force, the working group has urged that the decisions by the non-judicial Appeals Advisory Board should be binding on the Home Minister, and decisions with regard to the Act should be subject to judicial review.

SUARAM thus calls upon the government to re-think the proposed amendments to all the detention-without-trial laws in the light of the latest WGAD's recommendations. The ISA, the EO, the DDA, and the RRA must be repealed forthwith; the government should immediately end all arrests under the detention-without-trial laws, and release all those currently detained under these laws or charge them in a fair and open court.

End Detention of Refugees, Asylum Seekers and Other Vulnerable Migrants
On the detention of immigrants, the WGAD states that:

"Detention of immigrants should be decided upon by a court of law, on a case by case basis, and pursuant to clearly and exhaustively defined criteria in legislation, under which detention may be resorted to."

The WGAD stresses that immigrants should have an effective remedy to challenge the necessity and legality of their detention at any time; that immigration detention should not be applied to refugees, asylum seekers and vulnerable groups of migrants, including unaccompanied minors, families with minor children, pregnant women, breastfeeding mothers, elderly persons, persons with disabilities, or people with serious and/or chronic physical or mental health problems.

The WGAD has also urged the Malaysian government to ratify the 1951 Convention on the Status of Refugees, a recommendation which has been made on numerous occasions by SUHAKAM as well as UN member states during the Universal Periodic Review of Malaysia in February 2009.

SUARAM strongly urges the government to immediately implement these recommendations and to stop arresting refugees, asylum seekers and other vulnerable groups of migrants. The government should provide a concrete timeframe for the ratification of the 1951 Convention on the Status of Refugees.

Invite UN Experts in Other Areas Too

While Special Procedures Mandate Holders of the UN Human Rights Council can only visit a country with the host government's invitation, SUARAM would like to point out that the WGAD had in fact made a request for a country visit to Malaysia way back in 2008. It was only in early 2010 that the Malaysian government officially and publicly confirmed its acceptance of the WGAD's request to visit Malaysia.

To date, the Malaysian government has still not responded to eight pending requests by other Special Procedures Mandate Holders, namely the Special Rapporteur on Human Rights Defenders (request made in 2002); the Special Rapporteur on Indigenous Peoples (2005); the Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Religion (2006); the Special Rapporteur on the Human Rights of Migrants (2006); the Special Rapporteur on Human Rights and Counter-Terrorism (2005); the Independent Expert on Minority Issues (2007 and 2009); the Special Rapporteur on Racism (2008); and Special Rapporteur on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers (2009).

SUARAM therefore strongly calls upon the Malaysian government to extend standing invitations to all Special Procedures Mandate Holders of the UN Human Rights Council which have made requests for country visits to Malaysia as soon as possible.

Implement WGAD's Recommendations Now!

Today, WGAD's final report is being submitted to the UN Human Rights Council. The recommendations of the Working Group are clear enough for the government to make immediate human rights reforms. The working group has also urged the Malaysian government to become a party to the main international instruments on human rights, particularly the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR), the Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (CAT), the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, (CERD), the Convention relating to the Status of Refugees and the Protocol there to, the Convention relating to the Status of Stateless Persons, the Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC).

Similar recommendations have already been made by other bodies such as the Human Rights Commission of Malaysia (SUHAKAM), the Royal Commission on the Police, and UN member states. As such, there is no justification for the government to delay implementing these recommendations immediately, especially when Malaysia currently has a seat in the Human Rights Council.

The Malaysian government's attitude toward these recommendations of the WGAD will be an indication of either its commitment to human rights or otherwise, its sheer hypocrisy while sitting in UN Human Rights Council.

Sometimes Nazri maketh SENse...

Posted: 06 Mar 2011 10:42 PM PST

Desi hopes Nazi makes it a regular habit. And although Desi is anti-ISA, I reckon since it's in existence, Nazri should recomment that PERKASA head should be arrested under the ISA more than anyone else among the froggie-politicians for SHIT-STIRRING OF THE RACIST KIND, ofTEN aided by the Utusan Malaysia.

From The Star, page N20 in the print edition:-

Monday March 7, 2011
Nazri dares Perkasa

KUALA KANGSAR: Malay rights group Perkasa should send its leaders to contest in the next general election under its own banner, Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz said.

He added the group could do what they wanted if it managed to get the people's mandate and win big in the elections.

Nazri also challenged Perkasa to field its candidate to compete with him in his parliamentary constituency in Padang Rengas.

"I have no problem in facing any candidate, including Perkasa president Datuk Ibrahim Ali," he said after opening the Padang Rengas Umno branch meeting at Kati near here on Saturday.

He was responding on the group's opposition to the idea to drop the race column from forms issued by the civil service and the private sector.

On March 2, 1Malaysia Foundation chairman Prof Dr Chandra Muzaffar called on private and government agencies to drop the word "bangsa" (race) from forms to strengthen unity and work towards realising the 1Malaysia concept.

Nazri said the proposal was a "good idea" and he fully supported it.

The proposal could enhance the relationship between the people as they would not be profiled by race anymore.

"We can identify the race of any individual merely based on their names," he added, saying that his own name clearly defines him as a Malay.

Many official forms require Malaysians to declare their race, which has come under criticism from some quarters for creating polarisation in the nation's multiracial society.


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Sunday, 06 March 2011 21:00


WITHOUT much further ado, I will delve immediately into the subject proper of my talk today. Please bear with me. I will keep my address as brief as possible so that we may all ponder on the essential points that I am trying to make.

I have 11 major aspects to put before you today as Food for Thought and you may want to deliberate on them later among yourselves or ask me some questions at the end of my address.

As you all know, the World Bank confirmed late last year that Sabah and Sarawak had achieved the dubious distinction of bring the poorest and second poorest states in Malaysia. This is a figure derived at by using the figures of the Economic Planning Units of the Sabah and Sarawak Governments and the Economic Planning Unit in Putrajaya.

Forty per cent of Malaysia's poor, according to the World Bank, are in Sabah. This means that almost half of the poor people in Malaysia are in Sabah.

The poverty figures should come as no surprise since both Sabah and Sarawak are actually colonies of Peninsular Malaysia. More on that shortly.

Just contrast the economic development of Sabah and Sarawak with the status of neighbouring Brunei which stayed out from the Malaysian Federation at the last minute in 1963 and Singapore which left after two years in 1965.

By the end of last year, the Singapore economy at US$ 210 billion GDP was bigger than the entire Malaysian economy by US$ 5 billion. This is indeed a shameful state of affairs and one that calls for the leadership in Putrajaya to admit that they are an incompetent and corrupt lot and beyond any redemption in this life or the next.

They should head for the nearest toilet bowl to collectively dip their faces. It would no longer do for Putrajaya to continue in a state of denial. Most of the much smaller Malaysian economy vis-à-vis Singapore is concentrated in Peninsular Malaysia.

Did Sabah and Sarawak agree to federate together with Malaya and Singapore in 1963 to end up at the bottom of the dung heap along with the marginalized and disenfranchised elements of the Third Force in Peninsular Malaysia?

Patently, it's clear the something went seriously wrong for Sabah and Sarawak in the Malaysian Federation somewhere between 1963 and 2011. Most of the damage to the interests of the two Malaysian Borneo states in fact took place in the early years of independence.

The populations of Sabah and Sarawak may be much smaller than that of Peninsular Malaysia but the fact remains that this is compensated by the larger territorial area of Malaysian Borneo comparatively, its huge economic resources including vast acres of fertile land and consequently much bigger economic potential.

This is not however reflected in the Malaysian Parliament where the number of seats allotted to Malaysian Borneo at presents stands at 57 including the one held by the Federal Territory of Labuan.

Peninsular Malaysia meanwhile has 165 seats in Parliament i.e. more than two-thirds – 148 seats and thereby depriving Sabah and Sarawak of veto power in legislation. It is clear that 18 of the seats held by Peninsular Malaysia in fact belong to Sabah and Sarawak. That would leave Peninsular Malaysia with 147 seats i.e. one short of the two-thirds majority.

The rot set in when Singapore's exit from Malaysia saw Peninsular Malaysia taking half the 15 seats held by the island in Parliament. This altered the previous balance in Parliament between Peninsular Malaysia on the one hand and, on the other hand, Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak in the collective.

Peninsular Malaysian politicians like to make much of the issue that their much larger population must be reflected in the number of seats held in Parliament. If that's the case, why is that Sabah with a much larger population of 3.2 million than Sarawak's 2.5 million has to make do with 25 seats in Parliament compared with the latter's 31 seats. If Sarawak's much larger territory vis-à-vis Sabah's and the latter's much larger population vis-avis the former's are both taken into consideration, both states should have the same number of seats in Parliament.

In any case, there's no dispute between Sabah and Sarawak on the allocation of seats in Parliament. It's immaterial whether Sabah or Sarawak, in comparison with each other, has a much larger number of parliamentary seats. The pertinent point is that Sabah and Sarawak, collectively, must have at least one seat more than one-third in Parliament. The veto power of Sabah and Sarawak in the Malaysian Parliament must be restored.

Peninsular Malaysian politicians routinely also claim that rural seats must be given a certain weightage to compensate for their relative under-development vis-avis urban seats. This is supposed to account for rural seats having a smaller number of voters compared to those in the urban areas.

If that's the case, why is this formula not being applied in Sabah and Sarawak, which are largely rural, along the lines in Peninsular Malaysia?

The gross under-representation of Sabah and Sarawak in the Malaysian Parliament, and the deprival of their veto power in the process, has a direct co-relation to the grinding poverty levels in Malaysian Parliament.

It is recommended that no new Parliamentary seats be allocated to Peninsular Malaysia in future increases. If a moratorium is placed on their current 165 seats–to be taken as two-thirds minus one in a new equation–some semblance of balance can be restored in the Malaysian Parliament.

Sabah and Sarawak's collective 57 seats, including Labuan one, must be increased to one plus 82 i.e. 83 seats. If the present 57 seats are deducted from the new proposed total, this gives us additional and new seats totaling 26 which can be shared equally between Sabah and Sarawak.

This will be reflected in the Malaysian Parliament as follows: Sabah 26 + 13 for 39 seats; Sarawak 31 + 13 for 43 seats; and Peninsular Malaysia 164 seats.

The composition of seats in the Malaysian Parliament must be considered together with the question of revenue sharing between the federal and state governments in general and in particular with the so-called autonomous status of Sabah and Sarawak.

At present, the federal government takes all revenue from Sabah and Sarawak, leaving little for the states and leaving them with very little, if at all, revenue-raising powers. In return, very little of the federal revenue from Sabah and Sarawak comes back to the two states. This is the second major reason for the grinding poverty in Malaysia Borneo apart from unfair representation in the Parliament i.e. the first major reason.

The third major reason for our poverty is the fact that the federal government through Petronas leaves only 5 per cent of the oil and gas revenue in Sabah and Sarawak. Contrast this with the 70 per cent that the provinces are allowed to keep in neighbouring Indonesia. The central government in Jakarta takes only 30 per cent.

The fourth major reason for poverty is the fact that there's very little oil and gas infrastructure in Sabah and Sarawak. No attempts have been made to diversify the oil and gas sector through downstream activities and as well facilitate backward-and-forward integration.

The fifth major reason is that Borneonisation of the federal service in Sabah and Sarawak have been non-starters and where implemented, non-Muslim natives and the Chinese and others have been deliberately left out in line with the vile racist master race policy of ketuanan Melayu (Malay supremacy and dominance).

The sixth major reason for the grinding poverty levels in Sabah and Sarawak has been the refusal of the federal government and their stooge governments in Sabah and Sarawak to respect the Adat.

Among others, this has seen the wholesale confiscation – with the active connivance of the police and Land Office of native customary rights (NCR) land and their alienation to the respective state government (by way of extension of forest reserves and the like), to state agencies, GLCs, federal agencies and private companies run by cronies of the ruling party.

The phenomenon has been well-documented in numerous cases in court and in thousands of complaints lodged with the Malaysian Human Rights Commission (Suhakam) and at the respective Land Offices themselves in Sabah and Sarawak.

This is a deliberate and systematic attempt to reduce the native communities of Sabah and Sarawak to the same status of the Orang Asli in Peninsular Malaysia and the Indian underclass displaced and dispossessed by the fragmentation of the estates and or their conversion for the purposes of urban development.

Stranded in urban shanty-towns with no personal documents, little marketable skills, often only a rudimentary education in Tamil, poor command of English and Bahasa Malaysia and without any social safety network, suicide is the only option for the Indian underclass given the reality of no upward social mobility.

These are the people represented by Hindraf Makkal Sakthi. These are the people taking to the streets ever so often these days and engaged in running battles with the police and authorities as they walk the path of urban guerrilla warfare and terrorism.

Likewise, the future of the natives companies in Sabah and Sarawak will indeed be very bleak without the social safety network afforded by NCR land. Therein lies the seeds of a bloody revolution in Borneo especially when our people start committing suicide, like the Indian underclass in Peninsular Malaysia, to opt out of a hopeless situation.

The native communities in Sabah and Sarawak are being pushed in the same direction as the Indian underclass in Peninsular Malaysia which is a whole lot worse than that of the Orang Asli who still have a little land with them. But for the Orang Asli, how much more time do they still have before they too start committing suicide on the scale of the Indian underclass. Poverty, as Mahatma Gandhi once observed, is the worst form of violence against a people.

The seventh major reason for the grinding poverty in Borneo is the fact that Sabah and Sarawak are being treated as two of the states in Malaysia. This certainly should not be the case if one reads the Malaysia Agreement carefully, the 20/8 Points and other relevant documents including declassified ones available in the United Kingdom.

Sabah and Sarawak came together with Singapore and Malaya in 1963 to form the Federation of Malaysia as equal partners. This means that Malaysia is a two-tier federation i.e. a federation of states in Peninsular Malaysia which are part of a greater federation of Malaya, Sabah, Sarawak and Singapore.

Hence, the federal government of Malaysia should be shared equally between Peninsular Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak i.e. leaving out Singapore which has since quit the federation.

The departure of Singapore from Malaysia begs the question of whether the original federation in 1963 still exists or whether Sabah and Sarawak have been quietly incorporated as two of the states in the 1957 Federation of Malaya (now masquerading as Malaysia).

This appears to be the case and must be considered seriously by our legal fraternity, the governments of Sabah, Sarawak, the federal government, the government of the United Kingdom and the United Nations.

Moving forward, it must be clear by now that after nearly 50 years of Malaysia, it cannot continue to be business as usual in Sabah and Sarawak.

Eighth major reason. Already, the federal government has been in non-compliance with the Malaysia Agreement.

Non-compliance raises the question of whether a compliance mechanism must be set up or whether both Sabah and Sarawak should appeal to the international community and the United Nations to facilitate the departure of the two states from the Malaysian Federation. Singapore has been a precedent.

It's unlikely that the UMNO federal Government, obsessed with ketuanan Melayu, will ever consider any compliance mechanism for the Malaysia Agreement or give justice, belated as it may be, to Sabah and Sarawak. This must be borne in mind by those who are currently flogging the Borneo Agenda with the hope that federal government will come to its senses. It's a case of too little, too late.

The departure of the British colonialists in 1963 in fact saw the handover of our two states to new colonialists in Peninsular Malaysia i.e. those who believe in the vile and racist master race policy of 'Ketuanan Melayu' (Malay supremacy and dominance).

Ninth major reason. The ketuanan Melayu policy in Sabah and Sarawak is kept going by local proxies of the ruling elite in Putrajaya. These stooges of Putrajaya are traitors who have participated in the colonial divide-and-rule policy of keeping the Chinese and majority non-Muslim natives out of the political mainstream and from the leverages of power.

To add insult to injury, they have willingly participated in the marginalization and disenfranchisement of their fellow countrymen through the placement of illegal immigrants on the local electoral rolls and the grant of MyKads through the backdoor by Putrajaya. What happened to the security promised us by Federation in 1963? This is the tenth major reason for the grinding poverty levels in Sabah and Sarawak.

Even more than the Chinese and non-Muslim natives communities, it's now the local Muslim native communities that are feeling the brunt of marginalization and disenfranchisement. They see their already small stake under Article 153 of the Federal Constitution being shared with the instant natives created from among the illegal immigrants.

In Sabah, local proxies of Putrajaya have now been dispensed with and Umno itself has struck roots to take half the seats in the state assembly and half the Sabah parliamentary seats. To mask their true intention, they invited MCA, MIC, Gerakan and the PPP along for company and recently came up with the so-called 1Malaysia policy. This further ensures the continued enslavement of Sabah.

In Sarawak, Umno is poised to enter state the manner that they have done in Sabah. This is to ensure that the majority Dayak community will never be able to rule their own state.

The 11th major reason for the grinding poverty levels in Sabah and Sarawak is the National Cabotage Policy (NPL) which decrees that all imports must go through Port Kelang as the National Load Centre. This ruthless policy has been responsible for the higher prices in Malaysian Borneo vis-à-vis Peninsular Malaysia in the face of lower wages. The NPL has held back the economic development and industrialization of Sabah and Sarawak since the advent of Malaysia.

It's time for the international community and the United Nations to enter the picture and rescue Sabah and Sarawak from the gross violations of human rights taking place and restore our sovereignty and territorial integrity and guarantee our security. There's no longer any hope for us in Sabah and Sarawak. Something must be done, and done quickly, before the situation further degenerates into an even greater vicious cycle of poverty, ignorance, disease and violence.


And Desi likes this commenter's at the MCLM's spokesman's site:

Sang Kancil Guru

March 6, 2011 at 7:55 pm

Don't even talk about Felda folks, MCLM will find itself a serious challenge to get themselves into the consciousness of the general public and the middle class, if the urban public is what they are mostly targeting at.

Right now, I see a huge disconnect between the public and the small group of MCLM supporters; you need to dumb-down your high-flowing rhetoric and lower yourself down to bread & butter issues to connect yourself & MCLM to the man on the street or at least explain how your high-falutin ideals is connected to the basic problems that plague the consciousness of most urban residents.

The fact that you are not even a political party, but some weird hybrid of an NGO and having one foot in PKR and one foot as an Independent, is going to confuse voters like hell. Simplify things, dont make it too complicated for voters. I think most of the urban voters you are targeting still has no idea what the hell is MCLM all about. You serious and urgently, basically, need to get into the voters' faces. Now is not the time to act aloof, holier-than-thou and high & mighty!

Tati’s blog post on the cat abuser

Posted: 06 Mar 2011 09:34 PM PST

I confess I'm not very tuned into animal oriented cases. I have been hearing a lot about this one though, and though I haven't seen the video, my instincts tell me there's a lot of truth and sincerity to this particular post by Tati Ambia which I think is worth a read.

Things spread fast on the internet, emotions sometimes run high. I think that's all the more reason to help spread the voice of reason, and objective accounts.

Credit to YBs Ean Yong and Nie Ching, who I think played their role as best they could under the circumstances.

Liverpool 3 Manchester United 1.

Posted: 06 Mar 2011 05:26 PM PST

Liverpool's fully deserved 3-1 victory over Manchester United at Anfield may not ultimately prevent their arch-rivals surpassing the Reds' 18 league titles at the end of the season.

It has, however, dented Sir Alex Ferguson's side's hopes of a straightforward run-in and at the same time restored some pride for the Reds after two defeats at Old Trafford already this campaign.

Dirk Kuyt grabbed the headlines with a first Liverpool hat-trick against United since Peter Beardsley's in September 1990, before Javier Hernandez headed an injury-time consolation - but there were many more who deserved the plaudits.

Tireless livewire Luis Suarez had a hand in all three goals while Lucas Leiva and Raul Meireles produced impressive midfield performances.

The afternoon was capped off with a long-awaited debut for £35m record signing Andy Carroll after more than two months on the sidelines with a thigh injury.

For United their second-choice central defensive partnership of Wes Brown and Chris Smalling, deputising for the suspended Nemanja Vidic and injured Rio Ferdinand, never looked comfortable on an afternoon when very few of visiting team reached anywhere near the exacting standards Ferguson demands.

They still remain top of the table, and it is difficult to bet against them being in that position come May, but two defeats in five days - having lost at Chelsea in midweek - leave plenty of questions to be answered.

While Carroll had claimed all the adulation prior to kick-off, when the action got going it was his fellow January arrival Suarez who had an effect where it mattered most.


The Uruguay international, a £22.7m transfer from Ajax, had one early effort prodded at Edwin van der Sar but that was merely a precursor to a piece of brilliance to set up the opener.

When he collected the ball on the left of the penalty area his route to goal was blocked by a number of opponents but his quick feet saw him weave past Rafael, Michael Carrick and Wes Brown on his way to the byline.

From there he squared the ball through Van der Sar's legs to present Kuyt with a tap-in from just inches.

Suarez could claim to have had a hand in the next one too - but the main credit had to go to Nani, who had a defensive aberration.

The Portugal international inexplicably headed the Uruguayan's cross back into his own six-yard area where Kuyt gleefully nodded in.

Liverpool's lead was fully deserved but it had been United who had come closest to scoring prior to Kuyt's 34th-minute strike.

Dimitar Berbatov, scorer of a match-winning hat-trick in their Old Trafford league encounter, volleyed Wayne Rooney's knockdown against the outside of Jose Reina's right-hand post.

The rivalry between the teams, England's dominant pairing over the last four decades, was evident in the closing stages of the first half.


Jamie Carragher, switched to right-back after Fabio Aurelio went off injured, then made a shin-high tackle on Nani who went off injured.

The second half began with United, not unexpectedly, having their best spell and for 20 minutes it appeared a goal was imminent.

Ryan Giggs, breaking Sir Bobby Charlton's record of 606 league appearances, met Rooney's cross with a first-time shot which whistled just over the crossbar to serve as a warning that the match was far from finished.

Meireles had to clear off the line for the second time in the match to prevent Berbatov's close-range header going in while Giggs curled an 18-yard free-kick over.

More gaps were appearing in the visitors' defence, though, and when Kuyt put Meireles clean through Van der Sar came to the rescue by palming his angled shot away.

The Dutchman in the 65th minute, however, spilled Suarez's free-kick and his compatriot knocked in the rebound.

Carroll's long-awaited debut arrived in the 74th minute when he replaced Meireles to a rapturous reception and his first touch was a goalbound header.

Kuyt's supreme confidence saw him attempt a 25-yard volley which screamed wide while Gerrard twice hit low shots either side of each post.

Hernandez scored a late headed consolation from Giggs' cross in added time but it hardly raised a cheer among the visiting fans.


"Everyone gave everything they had to beat Manchester United and they played so well. They were all outstanding in different ways. Dirk got three goals and will get the headlines and Luis played fantastically well but the rest of them weren't too far behind. Without the contribution of the rest the boys would not have had as an enjoyable afternoon. We know it is a good victory and very important for us."
- Kenny Dalglish.

"Winnable candidates" pilihan tepat

Posted: 06 Mar 2011 04:48 PM PST

Penyokong2 BN khasnya Umno senyum lebar dari semalam. Kemenangan calon mereka di Kerdau dan Merlimau dengan majoriti yang lebih besar adalah bukti nyata momentum kembali kepada BN. Kemenangan ini juga bukti jentera parti bekerja keras memastikan setiap pengundi mendapat perhatian. Namun, faktor utama yang membantu kemenangan ialah calon. Syed Ibra dan Ron ialah contoh "winnable candidates" yang dimaksudkan oleh PM DS Najib Razak. Ketua Bahgian tak semestinya menjamin kemenangan.

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