Friday, January 21, 2011

Tenang: Who got the extra card...

Tenang: Who got the extra card...


Tenang: Who got the extra card...

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 10:50 AM PST

Its nomination day for Tenang state seat by-election. Irrespective of how many candidates are taking on Barisan's Azhar Ibrahim, the party workers must bear in mind that its a new 'war game' this time around.

After 21 years without any by-election in Johor, dont take for granted that the political scenario is similar to what we had back in the 1980s. The playground is getting bigger, the players have multiplied while the modus operandi gets more sophisticated.

Deputy Prime Minister Muhyiddin has threw a challenge for BN to chalk 'at least 5,000 majority' victory on January 30 poll, almost double from the 2,492 votes registered in the 2008 general election. Who would translate that challenge into reality?

The party workers will have to bear such a big responsibility. Confidence in winning is there - knowing Johor is BN's strongest stronghold - but the figure can either be enhanced or reduce significantly.

I just want to see BN workers start working in the morning and not to wait until the sun is down, unlike the Opposition party workers (especially Pas) who are accustomed to start wooing voters after the Subuh prayer.

I have covered almost all general elections and by-elections since 1981 and I noticed how Pas campaign machinery start cracking in the morning while the government supporters taking their sweet time before getting on the job.

When Pas party workers have already distributed about 10,000 pamphlets, the BN workers were just about to begin!

As both candidates, including Pas' Normala Sudirman are known to be fully-respected by the people in Tenang, character assassination is expected not to be part of campaigning issues. Even locals are not used to such 'dirty tactic' and badmouthing, thus sending a signal to both sides (including bloggers) not to start one.

Tenang folks are also united in so many ways. As to whether they are members of Umno, Pas, MCA, PKR or what, they dont mind sharing the same coffee table and chat as friends. Their political ideology may differ but not their line of friendship.

So, bloggers and journalists alike, you need to be more careful as this is not Kuala Terengganu, Bukit Gantang or Galas. There is almost no major issue in Tenang.

The only issue is to display our extra cards in wooing their support for BN. Do we have that?


Pindaan Undang2 Tubuh Selangor: Taat Mahathir atau Sultan?

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 07:33 AM PST

Tulang Besi mendapat maklumat Baginda Tuanku Sultan Selangor amat berkenan dengan cadangan pindaan Undang-Undang Tubuh Kerajaan Selangor yang dicadangkan oleh Kerajaan PR pada 24 Januari 2011 ini.

Kerajaan PR Selangor tidak bercadang untuk membawa apa-apa pembaharuan. Hanya mahu mengembalikan peruntukan asal yang telah dirompak Dr Mahathir apabila beliau membuang kuasa Raja-Raja pada tahun 1993.

Pindaan ini seterusnya akan menguji kesetian UMNO itu sendiri. Samada mereka setia kepada BAginda Tuanku ataupun mereka setia dengan Mahathir bin MUhammad Iskandar Kutty.

Sultan Selangor ini lambang orang Melayu dan panji adat istiadat serta kekuasaan Melayu. Dr Mahathir Muhammad Iskandar Kutty pula bukan pun keturunan melayu. Atas sebab itulah beliau diberi gelaran D.K. untuk mengingatkan kita bahawa beliau bukan seorang Melayu.

Kalau UMNO menolak cadangan pindaan ini, saya mencadangkan supaya kesemua ADUN UMNO Selangor beli tiket kapalterbang dan terbang ke Kerala India. Ini kerana mereka telah membuktikan mereka lebih taat kepada D.K. berbanding Sultan Selangor yang menjadi Raja kepada orang Melayu.

Ataupun UMNO kena tukar nama dari Parti MElayu kepada Parti Mamak kerana ketaatan mereka kepada Mahathir yang bukan Melayu lebih tinggi dari ketaatan kepada Raja Melayu.

Sebagai penutup, Tulang Besi hairan mengapa Berahim Ali terpekik terlolong "membela" Sultan Selangor dalam isu perlantikan Khusrin Munawi. Kononnya beliau mahu membela Sultan Selangor yang beliau dakwa dihina oleh Menteri Besar Selangor atas suruhan Anwar Ibrahim.

Lupakah kita pada tahun 1993, selepas Berahim melompat dari S46, betapa nyaring dan lantang beliau memaki dan menista Sultan Kelantan sewaktu menyokong Pindaan Perlembagaan tajaan Dr. Maahthir Iskandar Kutty di dalam menghapuskan kekebalan Raja-Raja Melayu tempohari?

Apakah Berahim dan PERKOSA telah lupa sejarah Berahim dalam Parlimen sewaktu beliau menjadi ahli parlimen lompat bagi Pasir Mas pada tahun 1993 yang lepas?

Samalah macam UMNO yang terpekik terlolong kononnya PAS dipergunakan DAP tapi UMNO Selangor sendiri menggadai tanah rezab surau di Rawang pada Tauke.

Inilah yang dipanggil orang tua-tua sebagai "lidah bercabang". Sekejap kata lain, sekejap lagi kata lain.

Orang macam inikah yang kita hendak harapkan untuk membela orang Melayu?

Tulang Besi


Melayu Singapore Sokong PAP.Kenapa PAS Tidak Boleh Kerjasama dengan DAP?

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 07:21 AM PST


Singapura adalah kubu kuat UMNO sebelum UMNO menyerahkan Singapura kepada Lee Kuan Yew. Rata-rata orang Melayu Singapura menjadi penyokong UMNO pada waktu itu sehingga melahirkan kepimpinan2 UMNO seperti Syed Jaafar Albar (yang mendapat gelaran Singa UMNO).

Namun, pada hari ini, setelah lebih 40 tahun Singapura berpisah dari Malaysia, rata-rata orang Melayu di sana telah berubah arah dan memberi sokongan padu kepada Parti Lee Kuan Yew (Parti People's Action Party atau PAP).

Pada tahun 1960an, tidak masuk akal kalau ada orang Melayu yang mengaku menjadi ahli PAP ataupun mengisytiharkan sokongan pada PAP pimpinan Lee Kuan Yew. Namun, pada hari ini, rata-rata orang Melayu telah membuang UMNO dan menyertai PAP dan ada di antara mereka menjadi Ahli Parlimen PAP seperti Zaqy Mohammed di bawah:




Taktik Mahazalim dan PERKASA yang terbaru adalah menakutkan orang Melayu Malaysia dengan mengambil contoh Melayu di Singapore. Soal saya adalah, sekiranya benar-benar Melayu tertindas di Singapore, mengapa Melayu beramai-ramai menyertai PAP?

Saya yakin Dr Mahathir pasti sedih membaca keratan akhbar di atas kerana pada zaman beliau muda dahulu, perkara seperti di atas tidak mungkin terjadi.

Padahal, di Singapura, UMNO masih wujud dalam bentuk Pertubuhan Kebangsaan Melayu Singapura(PKMS). PKMS adalah parti yang sah dan diizinkan bertanding dalam piliharaya umum. Kalau orang Melayu Singapura menyukai ideologi UMNO sudah tentu PKMS mampu menarik lebih 14% populasi Singapura untuk menyokong mereka. Undi blok seperti ini mampu menyebabkan PAP kalah di beberapa kerusi.

Namun, Melayu Singapura lebih tertarik dengan meritokrasi tajaan Lee Kuan Yew berbanding "Hidup Melayu" tajaan UMNO.

Perjuangan PKMS (UMNO Singapura) sekarang ini tidak lebih dari bergaduh sesama sendiri merebut Bangunan UMNO di Jalan Changi yang bernilai lebih SD10 juta itu.(Sila baca di sini)

Keluarga saya di Singapura, rata-rata merasa gembira hidup di Singapura walaupun mereka orang Melayu tulin. Saya tanya, mengapa begitu. Mereka jawab di bawah Lee Kuan Yew mereka boleh membina kehidupan yang lebih baik berbanding dengan di bawah UMNO.

Mereka kata pendapatan mereka jauh lebih tinggi di bawah Lee Kuan Yew berbanding di bawah UMNO. Mereka kata pelajaran anak2 mereka jauh lebih baik, kehidupan hari tua mereka jauh lebih terjamin, kebolehan membeli rumah jauh lebih kehadapan berbanding mereka duduk di bawah UMNO.

Melalui pengakuan ahli keluarga saya di Singapura itu, saya tidak terkejut membaca laporan keratan akhbar di atas.

PERKOSA dan MAhathir mahu menakutkan Melayu Malaysia dengan menjadikan Melayu Singapura sebagai contoh. Namun, setakat ni saya tak jumpa Melayu Singapura yang mengeluh mendakwa mereka ditindas oleh Lee Kuan Yew dan PAP.

Saya rasa, Melayu Singapura selesa untuk hidup dalam sistem meritokrasi dan mereka tidak takut untuk bersaing.

Tidak seperti Melayu Malaysia yang condong pada UMNO yang senantiasa mengharapkan subsidi dan malas untuk berusaha dengan tulang empat kerat mereka. Melayu UMNO sememangnya dilatih untuk menjadi penagih subsidi sejak zaman berzaman. Sebab itulah mereka takut dengan meritokrasi dan persaingan. Jenis Melayu seperti ini lebih suka hidup hina sebagai kroni dari hidup mulia sebagai pengusaha.

Melayu seperti inilah yang terpekik terlolong pasal hak Melayu kerana mereka tahu mereka akan jadi miskin papa kedana kalau mereka terpaksa bersaing. Selama ini mereka hidup mewah merompak kekayaan rakyat hanya kerana hubungan baik mereka dengan pemimpin2 UMNO.

Akhir kata, lebih baik pergi sendiri ke Singapura dan tanya orang Melayu di sana, apa benar mereka ditindas atau tidak.

Juga, kalau Melayu Singapore boleh sokong PAP, mengapa PAS tidak boleh bekerjasama dengan DAP?

Tulang Besi

ps Cumanya, orang Islam di sana mesti berpersatuan dan meminta supaya lebih banyak lagi tempat ibadah Islam dibina. Misalnya, di Changi Airport tiada surau walau sebuah pun untuk orang Islam bersolat.


Queen of the Jungle.. Kattu Rani

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 04:48 AM PST

The movie, titled Kattu Rani (Queen of the Jungle) is about black magic and bomohs. Directed by Amigoz Sugu, the film was primarily shot in century-old graveyards at an estimated cost of RM180,000, where the actors claimed to have had 'unnatural' experiences. "Some of our artists suffered hysteria," said the film's producer, Dr Jaya Sankar, who produced the film under his Lackshaea Production banner. A "theatre premium show" took place at Petaling Jaya state Cineplex. More story : komunitikini.com Video by Arvind Raj
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Muhyiddin suggests possible solutions to Interlok row

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 03:09 AM PST

Additional footnotes, glossaries and teaching guidelines are possible solutions to the controversial textbook novel 'Interlok', said Deputy Prime Minister and Education Minister Muhyiddin Yassin. NONEHowever the final decision, including whether the textbook will be removed from the Form Five Malay literature syllabus, has yet to be made. According to Muhyiddin, the discussion on Tuesday among Education Ministry, MIC and other organisations, reached a consensus that 'Interlok' has no intention of disparaging the Indian community.
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Rakyat S'gor berkumpul ikrar sokong Sultan, MB

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 02:50 AM PST

Lebih 100 orang hari ini berhimpun di luar perkarangan Masjid Diraja Sultan Suleiman, Kampung Raja, Klang selepas selesai sembahyang Jumaat bagi menyatakan sokongan dan taat setia kepada sultan Selangor, menteri besar dan pentadbiran Pakatan Rakyat. Full story here: www.malaysiakini.com
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Second post-mortem on custodial death victim

Posted: 20 Jan 2011 10:54 PM PST

The body of the wireman who was found dead in the Bukit Jalil police station on Jan 7 was officially sent in for its second post-mortem at Universiti Malaya Medical Centre (UMMC)at 12.09pm, after it was re-identified by a younger brother, M Panirselvam, 32. The hospital's Pathology Unit head Dr K Mathiharen was then given the green light to proceed with the post-mortem on M Krishnan, 37, with the POL61 Form from the police force. Full story here: www.malaysiakini.com
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FuuuuYOH!!! Bigger than you da!

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 02:54 AM PST

Dei! I yam vit you vall the vey la dei.

I never thought he would do it again but our man Najib did!!!  He put up or allowed to be put up a HUGE cut-out of himself in technicolor glory at the Batu Caves for Thaipusam yesterday.  As you can see Najib's image is much larger than Lord Murugan's image.  I don't know about you but to me that is not only in bad taste but it is also culturally and religiously disrespectful. Well, it shows one thing. You Indian flers are in for good times. As many events in the past year has shown, the "beautification" of Brickfields, approval of millions of Ringgit for Tamil schools, Chua Soi Lek 'giving' RM30,000 to the Teluk Datuk Hindu community to build their temple and now this shameless display of "Hey! I'm with you all la dei!"  Well, as a fellow Malaysian I want to say congratulations guys. Milk it all the way. Get whatever you can. Cos they sure as hell won't remember you once your vote is cast.


Niamah!!!


Teng Tells EC Port Klang Vacant, Insists On Vote - By Clara Chooi.

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 02:33 AM PST

Selangor Speaker Teng Chang Khim announced today that he has formally notified the Election Commission (EC) about the vacancy of the Port Klang state seat, declaring that Umno's Badrul Hisham Abdullah was no longer an assemblyman.

Teng stressed that the Selangor constitution stipulates that the power to declare a casual vacancy in a seat lay with the state's Speaker and not the EC.

As such, he said the EC was now compelled to call for a by-election — the nation's 16th to date — within 60 days from today.

Its failure to do so, he said, would be tantamount to committing contempt of the House and of the Selangor Constitution.

"I have sent the notification together with the declaration on the vacancy of Pelabuhan Klang seat in Selangor Legislative Assembly, formerly occupied by Yang Bhg Encik Badrul Hisham Abdullah to the EC today and the office of the EC in Shah Alam has duly acknowledged the same," he told a press conference at his office here this afternoon.

Badrul, he insisted, had failed to attend state assembly proceedings for six months since July 5, 2010, and therefore, his seat has been vacant as of January 16 this year.

Teng also accused Badrul of telling a "blatant lie" when the latter claimed to have been present at the opening ceremony of the assembly sitting on November 8 last year, pointing out that no such ceremony had been held on that date.

"There was no opening ceremony of the assembly on November 8. The only opening ceremony of the third session of the 12th legislative assembly was held on April 12 which was officiated by the Sultan of Selangor. The sitting in November was the annual budget session where no opening ceremony was held," he said.

Teng added that details in the assembly's Hansard clearly proved that the PKR-turned-Umno representative had been absent for the entire session from November 8 to 15 last year.

Additionally, he pointed out that Badrul had himself admitted to his absence via a letter to the Speaker's office on December 10.

Teng later distributed copies of the assembly's attendance list and Badrul's letter to reporters to prove his claims.

In his letter, Badrul formally apologised for his absence from the House on November 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15 and 16 last year and explained that he had been away to seek traditional medical treatment in Pahang.

"Obviously, Badrul has told a blatant lie to defend his fatal mistake. In fact, I do not have to rebut him in this manner. However, to protect the integrity of the Speaker's office and to disperse the public confusion on the matter, I have no other option but to reveal the relevant documents," he said.

Teng claimed that Badrul had also misled the prime minister with his "lie" and expressed disappointment that Datuk Seri Najib Razak had chosen to believe the "errant assemblyman" instead of the state's Speaker.

Teng, a lawyer by profession, then chastised Dewan Rakyat Deputy Speaker Datuk Wan Junaidi Tuanku Jaafar for his "level of ignorance" when the latter reportedly said that it was for the assembly to collectively decide the vacancy of a seat and not the Speaker.

"Wan Junaidi may be correct if the situation occurred in the Dewan Rakyat for Article 52(1) of the Federal Constitution expressly provides that if a member of either House of Parliament is without the leave of the House absent from every sitting of the House for a period of six months, the House may declare his seat vacant," he said.

Unlike the Federal Constitution, however, Teng said the Selangor Constitution stipulates that the power to declare such a vacancy lay solely in the hands of the Speaker.

Article 69 of the Selangor Constitution states that "if a member of the Legislative Assembly is without the leave of the Speaker absent from every sitting thereof for a period of six months, his seat shall be declared vacant by the Speaker."

"It does not need a lawyer to understand the difference between the two clauses and the difference between the House and the Speaker. Perhaps Wan Junaidi may have to go back to law school or English school to do a revision course if he fails to understand the difference," he said.

Considering the points of law, said Teng, the EC's duty was to conduct a by-election in Pelabuhan Klang within 60 days from today.

"It is not the business of the EC to decide on behalf of the Speaker or to dispute the declaration made by the Speaker. Please read the law conscientiously," he said.

Teng also brushed aside a statement from Selangor Umno that Badrul would soon challenge the vacancy in court and seek a declaration that his seat was not yet vacant.

"So be it. It is up to him. I have done my job. Whether it can be challenged or not, the court will interpret it. I cannot make a decision for the court," he said.

Teng denied that his decision had been politically motivated, despite Badrul's accusation that it was PKR's act of revenge to punish him for defecting in 2009.

"The decision was made by the Speaker of the House, not by Pakatan Rakyat. It was made by the Speaker in accordance with the Selangor Constitution... not at a PR meeting," he said.

He added with the vacancy, Selangor's emergency legislative assembly sitting on Monday should only see the attendance of 55 state assemblymen.

"But this will not affect the two-thirds majority [needed] to pass the constitutional amendment because the majority is based on the total number of seats, which is 56," he said.

The Selangor PR government is seeking to amend the constitution to resolve the ongoing impasse over the appointment of its new state secretary.

A constitutional amendment requires a two-third majority vote which is 38 seats of the 56-member assembly. PR now occupies 35 seats in the House.

Teng acknowledged that Badrul had insisted on attending Monday's sitting, in defiance of his order that the seat was now vacant, but insisted that he would not be permitted to do so.

"As far as I am concerned, a declaration of vacancy has been made. Badrul is no more a Yang Berhormat and is now only a yang bahagia. Only YBs are allowed to enter the chamber of the House," he said.


Courtesy of The Malaysian Insider


Speaker: Badrul lied, EC given vacancy notice

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 01:15 AM PST

Selangor state assembly speaker Teng Chang Khim has accused Badrul Hisham Abdullah of lying about his attendance at the November state assembly sitting. At a press conference today, Teng said that Badrul Hisham's defence was a "blatant lie". "I wish to take this opportunity to rebut the statement made by Badrul Hisham that he was present at the opening ceremony of the legislative assembly on Nov 8. Full story here: www.malaysiakini.com
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Happy Thaipusam 2011 in Penang

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 01:18 AM PST

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Wah! You all damn kiasu leh!

Posted: 21 Jan 2011 01:32 AM PST

Admit it lah. They're pissing on you, right?

Wah! those flers in Singapore must be damn upset with us these few days hor? First the Dr. M fler told them in no uncertain terms that they were marginalising their Malay population. Saying the the Malay flers down there got no balls.  Errr...wait....that doesn't sound right.  I think he meant that the Malay flers down there were being treated badly by their government.  Then the Malay flers down there of course got very angry and retorted that they were just fine, thank you very much. Okay la, I think some of them were not as polite as me la. But that was the gist of what they said. Actually, they said they all are smarter, more well-off and better treated than our Bumiputras lah. Okay so that is one verbal debate that no one can win lah. So we thought, Hiya never mine lah. Things will cool down after a while.

Then suddenly the Ridhuan Tee fler came out and said that the Singapore flers want to 'eat' us up wor. He said the kiasu flers spend sooooo much money, billions and billions, on buying sophisticated armaments and all that. Their intention must be to come and conquer us some day. The Chinese muslim fler also said that those Opposition flers in Penang might be in cahoots with the Kiasu flers cos they (the Penang kia's) always go Singapore to 'get ideas' wor.

And as if that was not enough to start a full-scale war between us, the Perkasa fler, Ibrahim Ali came out shouting that actually our Malay kawan's in Singapore all just don't dare to speak out against their oppressors. In other words, no balls lah.  No Malays in Singapore dare to talk the truth about the treatment they received one he said.  I think there may be some truth in that statement lah. I think the Malay flers in Singapore don't want to talk about the treatment they received because they are afraid that if they did all the Malays flers from here might want to cross over there!!! Then how man? It is only a small pulau kan?

One of those Singaporean flers said that they feel at ease and are grateful that the Singapore rulers treat their trust with respect and transparency.  And in true Perkasa/Ibrahim Ali fashion our man pooh-poohed that and said that it was just a planted statement and did not represent the majority of Malays in Singapore. He also called on those flers down there who were anti-Mahathir's statement not to manipulate the issues because "we know what is happening." Phwaaaaar!!! Terror or not? No need for wikileak cables also our Ib knows man.

You know this. They said that. Frankly, Ibrahim Ali, Ridhuan Tee, Dr. M, I don't give a fuck anymore! As a Malaysian citizen I am just fed-up with our so-called leaders taking us for fools.


NIAMAH!!!


MB Johor PR pecah belahkan masyarakat

Posted: 20 Jan 2011 12:35 PM PST

Geran tanah untuk kuil "Dia (Pakatan) buat orang India tidak berpuas hati atau mungkin berkecil hati sehingga membawa pepecahan (terlebih) dahulu. Ini taktik yang digunakan tahun 2008. 'Kalau begini caranya, maka (ia adalah) cara yang merosakkan negara kita," katanya. Menurut Abdul Ghani, beliau berharap dalam pilihan raya kecil DUN Tenang pada 30 Januari ini, masyarakat Melayu, Cina dan India, menunjukkan semangat perpaduan dan terus memberi sumbangan kepada kerajaan. islamic state"Ini asas penting untuk menjadi bangsa yang bersatu, (menuju) negara yang maju dan perpaduan di kalangan rakyat Malaysia," katanya yang juga pengerusi BN Johor. Turut hadir dalam majlis tersebut ahli parlimen Labis Chua Tee Yong, ahli parlimen Tenggara Halimah Sadique, barisan kepimpinan parti komponen BN dan pemimpin kuil Sri Subramanian, di Labis. Dalam ucapannya, Abdul Ghani turut mengumumkan bahawa kerajaan negeri akan memberikan geran tanah, tempat kuil itu dibina - yang mula beroperasi sejak 2009. Bahkan katanya, kerajaan negeri "tidak ada masalah" untuk mengurniakan satu pertiga lagi tanah milik kerajaan negeri kepada pentadbir kuil tersebut untuk kegunaan kuil berkenaan.
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Good to read - The Rising Price of Makanan

Posted: 20 Jan 2011 10:41 PM PST

RISING FOOD PRICES AND THE IMPORTANCE OF FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE

The sharp increase in global food prices and their consequences raises some fundamental questions about the state of the world economy and how we organise our lives.

According to the UN's Food and Agricultural Organisation (FAO) its food price index hit an all-time high in December 2010. It was partly because of soaring prices that 925 million people worldwide suffered from hunger in 2010, an increase of 150 million since 1995-97. There have been mass protests and riots in a number of countries, including Algeria and Jordan. The escalating cost of bread was one of the many factors that led to the ouster of the Tunisian dictator, Zine-El-Abidine Ben Ali, by the people on 14 January 2011. In other countries, such as India and China the inflationary trend in food prices has forced their central banks to push up interest rates. This will have repercussions for their pace of growth which in turn may affect the global economic recovery.

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DAP Loke “Is a defamation Suit coming..??”

Posted: 20 Jan 2011 10:20 PM PST

It does seem that when YB utter words in the Dewan Assembly they are and will not be charge for defamation as they are covered by the " house immunity laws".

How would the husband and children of the family feel when their mother is subjected to 'ridicule' especially if it affects someones size. Are they just going to sit there and watch..??

THIS IS TOO MUCH AND WAY BELOW THE BELT..

" He described the self-claimed first lady as "the 40-40-40 fat lady" YB sorry but the internet portal did mention  and we quote here" Loke's speech on the roles played by the prime minister's wife, Rosmah Mansor, drew rounds of laughter from the floor."

Furthermore this was also written," We must tell this fat lady that she is not qualified to represent us!" Loke added to cheering from the audience."

Hellooooooooooo something is very wrong here.

We do not want to be hypocrites or hide behind the veil and say all of us do not make fun and call people names but YB Anthony this is a public function and a dinner.  Look around you and asks yourself this,"WHAT HAVE I DONE…??"

You are for one a Member of Parliament and she is afterall the Prime Ministers wife.Please don't lower yourself to such an extend that you humiliate the FEMALE GENDER and lose your political direction.

Imagine one of us at audie61 call our staff even 38 38 38 she will surely be rests assured give the person who uttered the words a  "good slap us across the cheek " and even more a." kick up the " BxxxS"……………..

CHOOSE YOU WORDS YB CORRECTLY



The Third Conversation

Posted: 20 Jan 2011 09:02 PM PST

When you are talking to another person, how many conversations are taking place?

The answer is three.

The first one is the most obvious; the words both of you are using plus the body language. The second is the one in your head. The third one is in the other party's mind.

Which one should you focus on?

You must try hard to listen to the third conversation. When you do that, you will find out what is in the other parties heart – swiftly. The real issue, the real message. The first conversation is only symbols and clues for us to uncover the third conversation.
Let's look at some examples.
  1. Your mom complains you always come home late and treat the house like a hotel. The real message could be that she wants to spend more time with you.
  2. Your partner says that you don't love her anymore. The real message could be "I need a hug".
  3. When someone complains he or she has so much work at the office, the real message could be, "I am a very important person in the company".


The ability to listen to the third conversation is very productive, cuts out lots of noise and unnecessary arguments. But it needs empathy, understanding and compassion. One must WANT to listen to the other side.


Unfortunately, most times our second conversation is so loud that we become totally deaf to the third conversation. Many are quick to frame answers and comments while the other party is still framing their words and has yet to complete their sentences.

Many will be busy picking whatever 'ammunition' they can get from the first conversation to win an argument or simply hit back - wrongly using the clues within the first conversation as comebacks. Most times hurting the other and spiralling the exchange into arguments and a heated debate.

Taking the examples above, we may find the comebacks as the following.

  1. Suggesting that in no way you can treat your home as a hotel, as a hotel would have had a swimming pool and better amenities.
  2. Suggesting that your partner expect too much and being impractical.
  3. Suggesting that it is time to ask for more pay or simply resign. Or bitch about the boss or company.


Silencing our second conversation is the key action in capturing the third conversation. We need to really pay attention and consciously try very hard to 'read' all the clues and signs within the first conversation.

We will need to ask questions, a little probing will help too. Our hearts and minds must be ready and willing.


Those who are able to listen to the third conversation will be better husbands, wifes, siblings, friends, salespeople, bosses, colleagues, etc.


They will also be better citizens, better Malaysians. Let us try the following. What do you think is the third conversation in these examples?

  1. When the Malays demand their special positions must be respected?
  2. When the Indians get angry with a word like 'pariah' in a novel?
  3. When the Chinese are angry that they are called pendatang?
  4. When the Sabahans say that 'Sabahans will show the way'?


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