Monday, November 22, 2010

Agenda Awani ~ Erti Pengorbanan - Siaran Aidil Adha 17hb November 2010

Agenda Awani ~ Erti Pengorbanan - Siaran Aidil Adha 17hb November 2010


Agenda Awani ~ Erti Pengorbanan - Siaran Aidil Adha 17hb November 2010

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 03:33 PM PST



Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.


Alhamdulillah! Semalam, saya telah menerima dvd rakaman siaran program Agenda Awani dimana saya telah diundang sekali lagi menjadi tetamu rancangan ini sempena Aidil Adha.


Hos rancangan pada malam 17hb November 2010 adalah Suhaimi Sulaiman. Turut menjadi tetamu pada rancangan itu adalah Norizan bin Shariff @ Nobisha, rakan blogger saya yang juga CEO Inminds Sdn Bhd.


Artikel selanjutnya akan saya tulis selepas ini.


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阿兹敏逾万票大热胜出署理职 副主席:努鲁添强符芝雅曼梳 (當今大馬)

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 07:20 AM PST

 
by Red Tomato Penang on Monday, 22 November 2010 at 13:11

人民公正党最后一周的中央党选已在昨日结束,阿兹敏阿里毫无意外地以高票中选为署理主席,取代宣布退休的原任署理主席赛胡先阿里。

 

根据《当今大马》所取得的非正式成绩,阿兹敏一共取得1万9212票,唯一的对手慕斯达法仅获得4567票。较早前,阿兹敏另一名劲敌再益依布拉欣,由于不满选举不公平而愤然宣布退选,并在上周五炮轰该党实权领袖安华偏袒阿兹敏一番之后,正式宣布退党。 

上述的非正式成绩,是根据公正党222个区部当中,已举行投票的214个区部,所得到的成绩。 

至于同样受到瞩目的副主席选战,4个脱颖而出的新任副主席是:(按得票最高顺序)安华长女努鲁依莎、策略局主任蔡添强、选举局主任符芝雅以及槟州第一副首席部长曼梳。 

西维尔超越哥巴拉排第五 

至于在上周排名第五的哥巴拉克里斯南,却在最后一周遭另一名印裔领袖——雪州行政议员西维尔成功超越。不过,由于公正党仅有4席副主席职,因此西维尔与副主席职擦身而过。然而票数较高的西维尔却占据了被委为副主席的优势。依据公正党党章,除了4名票选副主席之外,还可以多委任2名副主席,一般上有关的"固打"将会保留给东马的领袖或少数族群。 

公正党将在本周末于八打灵再也举行的年度代表大会上,正式宣布党选的成绩。 

以下是部分副主席候选人的非正式得票: 努鲁依莎:1万3170蔡添强:1万1460符芝雅:8891曼梳:8477西维尔:6984哥巴拉:6721雅耶沙里:6436

 


Johor needs the Bridge, Labuan asking for one too!

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 06:10 AM PST

Its about the Jambatan Bengkok (Crooked Bridge) again. Sultan Ibrahim of Johor today called for a new bridge to replace the causeway to Singapor, saying the bridge would be convenient for people travelling to Singapore and back and encourage tourists from the neighbouring country (here).

"I appreciate that the government is caring and constantly striving to tackle problems facing the people. However, there is one wish of the people of Johor that has yet to be fulfilled, and that is for a bridge to replace the causeway," he said at Istana Besar (the main palace).

Replacing the causeway would enable water at the strait to flow unhindered and at the same time improve the environment, he added.

The bridge, mooted by former premier Tun Dr Mahathir was 'put to rest' by his successor Tun Abdullah in 2004. I think this is the second time Sultan Ibrahim has reiterated his calls for such a bridge.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib has yet to make any stand about the project.

And in Labuan, the Opposition said Dr Mahathir has insulted the people of Labuan in saying that having a much-awaited bridge linking it to mainland Sabah will not do the island any good.

Sabah DAP Labuan Chief, Lau Seng Kiat, said Labuanites felt cheated because time and again people on the island returned Barisan Nasional (BN) candidates in every general election.

"It has been a 15-year wait for the people of Labuan. In fact during his campaign trails, Dr Mahathir had promised to make Labuan the pearl of South China Sea (here).

"Unfortunately, until today Labuan continues to be a sleepy town," he said, adding that failure to fulfil the bridge promise may cost BN the Labuan Parliamentary seat in the 13th general election.

He felt a bridge connecting Labuan to the mainland would boost the socio-economy of the region as prices of general food and everyday necessities are extremely unreasonable in Labuan due to high transportation cost, including ferry charges.

Lets get the boss to comment on this two 'jambatan'.


PKR party election - the horror stories continue

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 05:59 AM PST

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Oh, oh, oh! More horror stories about the PKR polls from Badrul Hisham Shahrin, a popular personality better known as Chegubard. In a letter to Dr Wan Azizah (at her request), he accused Anwar of intervening in polls.

Chegubard told Dr Wan about Kota Marudu PKR Youth chief, Dr Jurin Gunsalam, who was informed by his division chief Anthony Mandiau that Anwar had instructed him who to vote for.

Chegubard also revealed that some candidates were allowed to contest even though their names were sent in after the deadline.

He stated: "When a verbal complaint was made to the election officer, the complainant was asked if he was a supporter of Badrul Hisham. A written complaint has since been ignored."

He added that though the Tampin division had nominated him and running mate Chang Lih Kang, somehow that nomination went to their contenders, Shamsul Iskandar Mohd Akin and Khairul Anuar Zainuddin.

As with other polling complaints, his report too has thus far elicited no response.

His election agents reported the same mystery we've already heard, that the number of counted votes at a station were more than the actual turnout, which led Chegubard to remind us that in Kubang Pasu (see my earlier post Zaid Ibrahim - suffers no fool gladly), the number of counted votes was almost 3 times more than the actual turnout – UMNO, eat your hearts out!

Chegubard told us the same story, that the phantom votes were actually (indirectly) admitted by the election committee when they had to call a Zaid Ibrahim's representative to negotiate on how to split the total votes wakakaka.

Indeed, Chegubard, I asked the same question too, namely what kind of solution was this? In fact let's go one step further, what kind of poll was this?

He gave us more horror stories about the polling in Teluk Intan and Sabah, where the actual turnout at Sandakan and Libaran was only about 200, and not the official figures of 898 in Libaran and 456 in Sandakan. Incidentally Azmin Ali was the winner where he 'swept' virtually (almost) 100% of the votes at Libaran, Sandakan, Tawau and Tenom.

Chegubard said the votes for Sandakan and Libaran were not tallied at the polling centre and, like at Kubang Pasu, the candidates' agents were not allowed to be present during the counting process wakakaka!

Remember in my previous post Zaid Ibrahim - suffers no fool gladly, I mentioned Jonson Chong writing to Dr Wan to audit just the Libaran polls. Now we know why. But I doubt Jonson is still holding his breath waiting for the okay from the party president.

Sabah party deputy chief Christina Liew said: "I checked with the headquarters and was told that they are currently investigating...I understand that the majority of the (complaints) have been lodged with the headquarters, although I don't know how long the probe will take."

Meanwhile at headquarters, Dr Molly Cheah, head of the JPP, the so-called central election committee was reported by Malaysiakini as reluctant to say yes or no to Christina Liew's report that HQ was investigating.

But when MKINI pressed her, she said: "If Christina Liew says it's under investigation then it is under investigation." Wow! HQ investigating eh? No wonder Terence Netto (of Malaysiakini) described her llike a deer caught in the headlights wakakaka.

Chegubard said Dr Molly Cheah refused to confirm whether the number of complaints was 162, as
claimed by Liew and deputy president hopeful Mustaffa Kamil Ayub. I wonder whether she pleaded doctor-patient confidentiality? Or just that she didn't know!

Chegubard sighed: "I am adhering to party discipline by using internal means to make this complaint (but) it is as if I have been pushed to the wall. As a member of Parti Keadilan Rakyat, I am seeking keadilan (justice)."

Keadilan (justice)? Hmmm, well-known journalist and lawyer Art Harun did ask in his post what does the 'K' in PKR stand for? I have an answer for Art, but why don't you guess! wakakaka!

Art wrote: I don't know about how they feel and think. But frankly, in my perception, PKR is so full of crap than it would even dare to admit. And if the farce that PKR calls and labels as party elections is to be a yardstick of its ability to govern this country, I would rather vote for the Siberian Husky in front of my house. And by that, I don't mean to insult the dog.

Meanwhile, at Haris Ibrahim's blog, we hear and see more of the PKR party ballots arriving in Haris hands, leading an exasperated Haris to ask Is it pink ballot papers' week?

Well, then you wouldn't allow these pink ballot papers into a surau, would you?

For more, see Haris latest post titled A Gopeng PKR member's report on voting day which complements Chegubard's horror stories.
Can we sleep soundly with so many phantoms?


'Racist' Relocation Plan By Kepong Umno Under Fire - By Teoh El Sen.

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 05:45 AM PST

Jinjang Utara Rumah Panjang residents are unhappy over what they claim is a 'racist' relocation plan by Kepong Umno which neglected the other races.

Last Friday, Utusan Malaysia reported that 300 Malay residents would be moved to the Kepong PPR (People's housing project) by January.

It quoted Kepong division head, senator Rizuan Abdul Hamid, who expressed gratitude to Federal Territories Minister Raja Nong Chik Raja Zainal Abidin for approving the relocation.

Kepong Community Service Centre head Yee Poh Ping said that residents in the area are unhappy with the move by Umno Kepong.

"Usually the local authorities will send out notices, hold discussions and dialogues with residents before coming to a decision on how to relocate the residents," said Yee.

"The blue-coloured application forms to enable them to shift to Kepong PPR were distributed to only Umno members in the area by the Kepong Umno division," he added.

Yee wants Raja Nong Chik, DBKL mayor Ahmad Fuad Ismail and Rizuan to clarify and explain the matter to the residents.

"What really is their plan? You cannot simply defend the rights of Malays as this is an area comprising all races. I believe that the 948 units in Kepong PPR has already been allocated to people who are not from this area. How can there be 300 Malay residents shifting there?" asked Yee.

T Prakash, chairman of the Jinjang Utara Rumah Panjang Residents' Association, said he believed Umno was trying to win votes in Kepong.

"Rizuan wants to show that he is a hero to the Malays, but the Chinese and Indians here are also voters. I have always voted for BN," said Prakash. "We can't just divide this place by race."

Plan not approved

He added that when he checked with Raja Nong Chik's office, he found out that the plan has yet to get approval from the ministry.

Sa Lly, 42, a long-time resident said: "We want a real 1Malaysia and we must shift together, why are the Malays getting the forms but not us?"

Another resident L Shanti, 40, said: "Just because Umno is a Malay party, they can't do this. These are City Hall homes, we follow the instructions of the DBKL and not any political party."

It was understood that a meeting would be held between residents' representatives, City Hall and Federal Territories ministry soon on the matter.

When contacted, Rizuan said the residents got it all wrong. "Don't just say things without checking the facts," he said.

"Kepong has 998 units, and 678 have already been occupied by 90% Chinese and the rest by Indians and just few Malays. I requested Raja Nong Chik balance this out by putting in 265 more Malays from the Rumah Panjang and the other areas in Kepong," said Ridzuan.

"As an Umno division leader I have to fight for the Malays. We have 3,000 Malay voters in Kepong and there are 60,000 Chinese voters. Where would they go if I don't fight for them?"

On allegations that the forms were only given to Umno members, Rizuan replied: "Of course. I must find those who are Umno supporters. I only offered forms to Umno people," he said.


Courtesy of Free Malaysia Today


Date set for Jenapala's suit against PKR

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 04:01 AM PST

Former PKR deputy secretary-general P Jenapala's suit to stop the party from announcing the winner of the election for the deputy presidency will be heard on Thursday. Kuala Lumpur High Court judge Justice Aziah Ali set the date in chambers today. PKR's lawyers have also agreed that no formal announcement of the election results will be made until Nov 28, when the party holds its national congress in Shah Alam. more stories : malaysiakini.com
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Posted: 22 Nov 2010 03:08 AM PST

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Azmin vows to scour PKR of 'traitors'

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 02:43 AM PST

Newly-elected PKR deputy president Azmin Ali has vowed to rid the party of "traitors" following the bruising two-month-long party election process which has soured the party's public image. Speaking to reporters at the Parliament lobby today, Azmin said the "clean-up" will begin immediately after the party's national congress on Sunday. Video by Hazlan Zakaria
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Salahuddin Ayun on Eid al-Adha date conflict

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 02:26 AM PST

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Who reads Utusan?

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 02:20 AM PST

Newly minted PKR deputy president Azmin Ali asks who reads Utusan ... except Rosmah?
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Posted: 22 Nov 2010 02:20 AM PST

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Time magazine describes Brother Anwar Bin Ibrahim as "wise, decent and courageous"...but the truth is!

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 02:29 AM PST

You judge this man!

The West has come to the conclusion that Brother Anwar Bin Ibrahim (BABI) is just simply that smiling public face of modern-day Islamist jihad against the West, and always has been!
We now know that BABI set up Angkatan Belia Islam Malaysia (ABIM) using funding from group and persons known to be linked to terror groups.
We all know BABI is linked to a think-tank based in Virginia which is affiliated to the Muslim Brotherhood!
Lately, we have learn a lot about his chicanery and abuse of power even within his own party, so why is the world is still enthralled by this man - a perfect Chameleon! To read more please click here!

Time magazine's Joe Klein, regurgitating the mendia and governing class's line, called Anwar "a wise, decent and courageous man." But in fact Anwar is simply the smiling public face of modern-day Islamist jihad against the West, and always has been.


'I didn't know it would get this bad'

Posted: 22 Nov 2010 01:24 AM PST

www.malaysiakini.com There was no question that the deputy president's post would be contested, said outgoing number two Syed Husin Ali, but the severity of the competition came a big surprise. "I expected some contest but I didn't know that it would be this bad (but) it only became that way because there were parties who criticised and disparaged the party, in cooperation with party enemies, like media and party-owned media... but (hindsight) would not have changed my decision (to not contest), " he said.
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Being Creative, Being There

Posted: 21 Nov 2010 11:01 PM PST

It has taken me quite a bit of time to put my thoughts on this one together, because it is an extremely difficult area to treat. What do we mean to be creative?

I hold reality to be infinite, and hence incomprehensible to mankind - man or women of any kind - given the finiteness of our senses. We have difficulty already with what we can see - this is why the early Europeans made such a big deal about their "discovery" of the "new" world. The world is always there, but their discovery belated (and some would wish never). We have already made some discovery peering into the dark skies or deep into inner spaces. Some may even have claimed perception of another world, in another mind or mind-frame. So, in this sense, creating is nothing but the "discovery" of that which is already there in the first place but which our senses have not been able to reach before (to paraphrase an old beer advertisement). So, in this sense, being creative is to be there first, and return to tell the tale. (Unable to return and tell a good story sends one to the madhouse.)

Being creative, therefore, means to have seen another world or another aspect of the world and to be able to describe the "new" world in such a way that human beings can find applications to remove yet another level of uncertainty of life on earth.

For creativity, therefore, I give high marks for the "creation of the world" stories which are probably reflective of the height of human imagination, reflecting the most intense of human anguish. The myths, the religious as well as the so-called scientific, the latter being extremely hard to provide the evidence as well, or to prove or to show concrete results. All "creation" stories and theories are based on faith, religious or scientific.

The importance of stories or theories is that they provide a tentative basis for explaining why certain things happen in a certain way or not in a certain way. They help us to understand ourselves and the world around us, and life as we know it to be.

I am sure all of us are brought up on one set of stories, and by the time we die, we would probably have created our own little stories or amendments to the traditional stories for retelling to our grandchildren (by then, our children would have their own competing stories to tell). Traditions (folk, religious or historical) can have a significant influence on creativity by weighing it down, but for the imaginative, it may provide a fallback for some ways to take flights of fancy.

There are but three ways of trying to be creative. The first is to see a table with an optimal number of four legs, figure whether it can stand on three (which we know it can) or two (which we do not know). The second is to see a table and a chair and try to figure out whether there is a furniture that lies between a table and a chair (you figure it out). The third way is to "dream of things that are not and ask why not?" as per George Bernard Shaw. The third way of course is open-ended, as varied and as far as the mind can go.

If mind is the constraint, then how do we think when we want to get creative? (I believe we are back to square one as far as this post is concerned.)

There is an infinite number of layers of existence right before our eyes, our noses, our ears, our fingers, our being.

I am sure many of us have experienced all kinds of weird stuff in our dreams, and are unable to explain, recall or use, so we simply dismiss them.

It is unfortunate that the stuff which we all acknowledge to be creative are only those stuff which strikes a cord in the heart of every person (and hence comes down as stories or myths) or which could be made into useful products (and hence comes down as stories or urban legends). The genius is the person whom we salute as whom we are not.

If therefore we were to put aside the commercial aspect of life, then I would there to venture that most of us are creative in our way of living, venturing into all avenues which we are not able or unwilling to disclose to the rest of the world, our own secretive world of great intimate knowledge and great intimate feelings and emotions as we explore our own little world to our own little self. This must have been how all the great religious ones felt when they felt inspired by the divine and expressed those emotions in terms which the ordinary people even today tend to hold to ridicule.

The way to be creative therefore is to unrestrained which means also not to seek public approval which means also to be an introvert. So, by definition, the creative world is understated. The only lament that economic and industrial leaders have over creativity is over commercialisable creativity - this lament is more a reflection of greed rather than of conceit.

Be there, and there will be creativity.


Still no court date for Selvach’s haebas corpus hearing >:(

Posted: 21 Nov 2010 10:42 PM PST

Update 11/22/10, 3pm – I've just been told by LawyersForLiberty.org that they have now got a date, Dec 3rd. I think that's more than a MONTH after his arrest. This is terrible – a man can rot in prison facing the threat of torture for an entire month before our justice system kicks in?! >:(

Now immersed in a culture of Retweeting, hope you don't mind a Reblog of the following. A kind reader was asking about updates on this case, and this is the latest that I have.

Still worrying about Selvach :(

Lawyers for Liberty:

Court circular says habeas corpus hearing date must be fixed within a week! Why not followed for Selvach's case?

It just boggles the mind how easily the courts disregard the rights and freedoms of the rakyat. Here we have, an outright urgent case of a man being abducted, assaulted and detained by the police without trial since 25 October – all because he dared to testify against the police in R.Gunasegaran's death in police custody inquest.

The sambil lewa and tidak apa attitude is just astonishing, fit for a Monty Python sketch. The courts can't even adhere to their own June 2010 circular that states that all habeas corpus hearing dates must be fixed within a week after filing!

But hairan bin ajaib that Jenapala's ridiculous application for an injunction against the PKR election was filed yesterday (Friday) and lo and behold, the court fixed for hearing on Monday! Wah, suddenly so cepat and cekap buat kerja.

See the circular: http://202.75.7.131/portal/images/buku_laporan/Amalan_Rayuan/12010.pdf


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LIFE - HALF FULL OR HALF EMPTY?

Posted: 21 Nov 2010 10:45 PM PST

"If you could choose to live to a ripe old age, what age would that be?". When I put the question to my friends, the answer I almost always get is "80". I'm not sure if that's because 80 is an auspicious number and therefore a good age to say bye-bye, or is it because most people still equate any number beyond 80 with physical and mental deterioration.

It's time to blast that equation to dust. A change in mindset is long overdue. It is possible to live to 80, 90 and even 100 and still enjoy good health and quality of life, provided we make the right lifestyle choices.

My daughter Belle recently accompanied Teresa, a 112-year old supercentenarian, to London to attend the centennial celebrations of her alma mater. The trip was made possible by generous sponsors who wanted to make Teresa's wish come true. She had such a wonderful time and was feted everywhere she went. For Belle, it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience that she commemorated in a photobook specially put together as a gift for Teresa. (Pic: Teresa enjoying kite-flying.)

As a blogger on seniors-related topics, I have had the honour of meeting so many amazing men and women in their 80s and 90s who are proud of their age. And why not? How many people of this age-group can truly say they are living life to the full?

Members of the Happy Senior Citizens Club who are in their 80s and 90s. The oldest is Mr Yong Tze Tai, 95, (extreme left) a retired court interpreter, and the youngest is Mdm Wong Yong Moi, 83, (in black) a line-dance instructor at her church.

On the other hand, I've also met retirees and pensioners who, at the relatively young age of 60+, are already withdrawing from life. They come up with 1001 excuses on why they can't do this or that. They prefer to remain at home and whine about the miseries of impending old age, loss of employment, income and self-esteem.

They are poor company with their constant complaints of aches and pains, whether real or imaginery. They lament the lack of attention from their adult children and grandchildren. They have a long list of what's gone wrong with their lives, but can't see the solution even when it's suggested or presented to them. They choose to focus on what they feel they are cursed with, rather than what they are blessed with.

We all know of friends and family members who are like that. No one can help them if they don't want to be helped. Sad, isn't it?




Kertas undi bocor: JPP bertanggungjawab untuk segera beri penjelasan

Posted: 21 Nov 2010 01:00 PM PST

Dari Abdul Aziz Anon, via e-mail

Pemilihan PKR menutup tirainya semalam. Pemilihan ini sewajarnya memberi banyak iktibar kepada parti, pemimpin dan anggota.

Sebelum ini saya telahpun membuat desakan dan menyatakan bahawa pemilihan parti adalah tidak telus, mengandungi penipuan dan manipulasi undi. Pemilihan PKR penuh kecacatan, dan kecacatan ini jelas membayangkan kelemahan badan pengurusan dan pemantauan, dan kelemahan ini membuka ruang untuk berlakunya manipulasi dan penipuan.

Saya mendesak pihak JPP, sekretariat atau pucuk pimpinan untuk menjelaskan kesahihan 'posting' yang disiarkan oleh blogger Haris Ibrahim melalui blog beliau pada 21 November hari ini.

'Posting' tersebut jelas menunjukkan kertas undi yang bakal digunakan pada hari ini bagi pemilihan di cabang Gombak, Ampang, Selayang, Kuala Langat, Hulu Langat, Kuala Selangor, Pandan dan beberapa tempat lain lagi. Posting beliau jelas membuktikan kertas undi telah bocor.

Persoalannya ialah bagaimana Sdr Haris boleh menyiarkan kertas undi di blog beliau dua jam sebelum pusat-pusat pengundian dibuka pada jam 10 pagi? Sdr Haris juga mendakwa beliau menerima e-mel memberitahu kertas undi pemilihan PKR telah bocor. (Perkara yang sama juga dilaporkan oleh laman web Free Malaysia Today.)

Oleh yang demikian, saya sekeras-kerasnya mendesak JPP menjalankan kewajipannya untuk memberi penjelasan mengenai perkara ini.

Walaupun semalam adalah hari terakhir pemilihan tetapi apa yang telah berlaku seolah-olah mengiyakan dakwaan para anggota di peringkat akar umbi; JPP dan sekretariat memainkan 'peranan' dalam memanipulasi undi bagi memenangkan calon tertentu.

Saya merasa sedih dan teramat-amat kecewa dengan pimpinan parti khususnya Anwar Ibrahim dan presiden yang mendiamkan diri dan membiarkan sahaja JPP serta sekretariat ibu pejabat bertindak kotor dan mencemarkan prinsip-prinsip luhur perjuangan reformasi.

Baca:

PKR polls: Leaked ballot papers surface again


Sabah poorest state? Think again!

Posted: 21 Nov 2010 12:59 PM PST

From Cheong, via e-mail

I refer to the report, 'Lim: Sabah budget is 'cronies' enrichment programme'. A New Zealand MP recently resigned for allegedly abusing travelling allowances. Of course this will never happen in Malaysia.

The World Bank report that Sabah is the poorest state in Malaysia is obviously incorrect as Sabah does not seem to have any difficulty in paying out RM1 million in allocations for its MPs.

Read:

Lim: Sabah budget is 'cronies' enrichment programme'

Kit Siang wants royal inquiry on Sabah poverty


The other side to the Finas ad

Posted: 21 Nov 2010 12:58 PM PST

From Ahyad Mat Nawi, via e-mail

Replace the Muslim couple with a Christian couple and everything would be okay! Ramaji should scrutinise the huge number of Hindus who convert to Christianity, and pitifully, it is not because of the religion per se but nore for recognition and lifestyle and other than the fact that there is rampant exchange of aid for Christianity.

Read: Insulting and belittling Deepavali ad by Finas


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